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CLARKGRSWOLD said:
I think it's XCLD along with the orders.
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DAAAAAANMMMM dude.... relax, the noobs deserve a break. The hazing will begin soon enough. Welcome to the flack. You will soon be bombarded with propaganda from all sides...

learn up and decide for yourself.


Welcome to the next evolution of your career, may it be better than the last. Please remember though, just because they hired you doesn't make you their whore.
 
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Flyer1015 said:
How many days off per month for rsv? Callouts? Home reserve versus airport reserve? Short call/long call?
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1. 12/13 depending on 30/31 day bid

2. 2 hr short, 14 hr long

3. Airport RSV almost never happens and I'm not even sure that it's even allowed under the new FSM.

4. We have short and long call. Its not something you bid. If they have reserves about the min required, they are put on long call. You only really see it on the very slow months and this year even the slow months have been lacking in long call.

I've been at Jetblue for 3.5 yrs. RSV sucks but not much more then most other places. I also think the guys that get the 190 will be off RSV in about a yr. If you get the 32o, forget about it. Will be many many years on RSV.

Hope this helps.
 
I am one of the newer guys here. I might be naive but I don't see reserve being that long. With 300 new hires next year, roughly divided in half by airplane, if you were hired this year I don't see reserve even on the bus being more then a year long. We have guys on the 190 in JFK that might not sit more then 2-3 months reserve. On the bus, some of our guys are starting almost 50% in the JFK reserve pile. The last couple years guys sat a lot of reserve due to lack of hiring, but if this hiring continues I see movement in both planes. Again, I might just be naive.

Now if you are in a base other then JFK all the above might go out the window, except for E190 BOS.
 
n757st said:
I am one of the newer guys here. I might be naive but I don't see reserve being that long. With 300 new hires next year, roughly divided in half by airplane, if you were hired this year I don't see reserve even on the bus being more then a year long. We have guys on the 190 in JFK that might not sit more then 2-3 months reserve. On the bus, some of our guys are starting almost 50% in the JFK reserve pile. The last couple years guys sat a lot of reserve due to lack of hiring, but if this hiring continues I see movement in both planes. Again, I might just be naive.

Now if you are in a base other then JFK all the above might go out the window, except for E190 BOS.
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You really think we are going to hire 300 pilots in 2011 with only 9 aircraft slated for delivery with 2 lease returns?

42 pilots per aircraft?

I know the company said that ASM growth will be in the 8% range but that is dependent upon about 100 different factors any which can dial ASM back and back FAST.

Look to no more that 100 next year and most of that do to attrition.
 
Splert said:
You really think we are going to hire 300 pilots in 2011 with only 9 aircraft slated for delivery with 2 lease returns?

42 pilots per aircraft?

I know the company said that ASM growth will be in the 8% range but that is dependent upon about 100 different factors any which can dial ASM back and back FAST.

Look to no more that 100 next year and most of that do to attrition.
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I was just quoting the numbers man. If its only 100 then yes reserve will be a LONG time. If its 300 reserve will be very short.
 
Flyer1015 said:
How many days off per month for rsv?

12 or 13, which equals about 8 or 9 days a month at home. That is unless you plan on moving to N.Y.

Callouts? 2 hours. Long call went away when they unilaterally implimented the new FSM. Technically it still exists, but the staffing no longer supports its use.

Home reserve versus airport reserve? I've never had to sit airport reserve. All other reserve is home reserve(crash pad).

Short call/long call? See posts above!
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Just trying to lay out the facts as they are. I hope it helps you decide if B6 is the place you really want to hang your hat. Although B6 pilots don't wear hats!
 
There are only 15 reserve lines on the 190 in JFK for NOV..... according to that FACT.. there will be guys finishing IOE from the Sept. 8 class holding a line out of training...
 
av8tor4239 said:
There are only 15 reserve lines on the 190 in JFK for NOV..... according to that FACT.. there will be guys finishing IOE from the Sept. 8 class holding a line out of training...
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only if the bid divisor is lowered. Otherwise we'll just more reserves.

I do not believe ANY new hire will hold a line out of training...if thats the case...then there are NO reserves and we're *************************ed.
 
av8tor4239 said:
There are only 15 reserve lines on the 190 in JFK for NOV..... according to that FACT.. there will be guys finishing IOE from the Sept. 8 class holding a line out of training...
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The fact is that we have been short staffed for quite some time now. Please don't expect to hold a line out of training. There will be more reserves because we need more reserves. This summer, the company put out RSA's on a daily basis for just about every seat in every base. RSA's continue to come out each week for this month, but not nearly as much as the summer.

There's really no way to accurately predict how long one will sit on reserve. Things change on a daily basis. It is an airline after all. For some, reserve here may be better than plenty of other places, but we definitely need improvements in our current reserve system. The new FSM made it worse. Not trying to paint an ugly picture by any means. I think we have a great airline here......but there is much room for improvement! And we are working on it as I write. Regardless, welcome aboard! It's great to see some movement here. Hopefully the hiring and upgrading will continue.

Pro JetBlue
Pro Union
 
Jet41 said:
I have news for you, it sucks everywhere.
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That's not really news to me but thanks! I'd take the Sourthwest model for reserves over the mismanagement of the reserves at B6 any day!

P.S. I don't need to hear from the if you don't like it leave crowd! I would just prefer to see management improve the reserve system so that it's a little more equitable for those on reserve.
 
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Floatplane said:
That's not really news to me but thanks! I'd take the Sourthwest model for reserves over the mismanagement of the reserves at B6 any day!

P.S. I don't need to hear from the if you don't like it leave crowd! I would just prefer to see management improve the reserve system so that it's a little more equitable for those on reserve.
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Don't worry legally binding representatives will do more to fix Jetblue reserve than 11 years of 'Do the Right Thing", "Values" and the "Pilot Valueless Committee" has done.

That is of course the FAA and whenever they implement the new rest rules. The shame is that even at the FAA Safety is the #1 value after cost.

It's that awesome: 11 years of the direct relationship and we only have to wait 3 more year for the FAA.

It is no wonder the brainfarts at DPA are not trying to implement the direct relationship.
 

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