Northwest starting DSM to Vegas?

[DoinTime]

Too bad Midwest and Skyway kicked Northwest's a** when they added all of those flights to compete directly with them. The only flights they do now out of MKE is to the hubs and LAX/LAS. I wouldn't be suprised to see the LAS and LAX flights to go away soon either. I realize the whole bankrupcy thing played a big role in it but Midwest still handed it to them. MKE is very loyal to Midwest.

I don't believe it was ever Northwest's intention to put either ATA or Midwest out of business. To do so would have been foolish. If either ATA or MW go out of business it will leave a void that must be filled. Leaving a weakened rival in place serves to keep out other stronger rivals like Southwest, Airtran, and JetBlue as low cost carriers are loath to compete with other low cost carriers. There is a reason why Northwest allows Sun Country and Spirit to exist.

The mini-hub cities of IND and MKE were a stroke of brilliance on the part of NW. Now that Midwest and ATA are "back in the box" Northwest can pull its resources back to the hubs while the other carriers work on recovering their financial positions. Sun Country got a serious haircut a few years ago but they were allowed to recover into serving a very limited market.

 

[AirBud]

Yeah, and they're outta here in Jan.

NW against Allegiant? Good luck. I hear most of those seats are sold through package deals with hotels. If they are competing against seats already and always sold, they will fail. You would think they would focus more on bettering the business than lowering wages and competing on untested new routes. They bailed on MKE because the market didn't support that many seats as well as we didn't go out of business. I guess I'd try to get out of ch.11 first before I start going to headhunt.

A very large number of Allegiant seats are sold in conjunction with a hotel package. Allegiant only flies into these citied between 2 and 4 times a week. Load factors are in the high 80s..

NW can huff and puff all they want but it's not going to hurt Allegiant. NW has pissed off too many people with their high fares from these cities for too long.

 

[ilove2run]

I think its smart. Andi cant agree with you saying thats the reason why NW is in Chap. 11. They dont compete with everyone, just everyone entering their market. They dont compete with Airtran in the ATL or Frontier in DEN. DO you think it was dumb for Delta to run Jetblue out of atlanta?

Daunte maybe, but I dont think Mike Tice is dumb. THey have won 5 games in a row and have a shot at the playoffs.

I believe it's 6 games now... :beer:

 

[Propsync]

I don't believe it was ever Northwest's intention to put either ATA or Midwest out of business. To do so would have been foolish. If either ATA or MW go out of business it will leave a void that must be filled. Leaving a weakened rival in place serves to keep out other stronger rivals like Southwest, Airtran, and JetBlue as low cost carriers are loath to compete with other low cost carriers. There is a reason why Northwest allows Sun Country and Spirit to exist.

The mini-hub cities of IND and MKE were a stroke of brilliance on the part of NW. Now that Midwest and ATA are "back in the box" Northwest can pull its resources back to the hubs while the other carriers work on recovering their financial positions. Sun Country got a serious haircut a few years ago but they were allowed to recover into serving a very limited market.

Your post is funny. NW is 0-2. You guys showed us. So I guess their move is like Delta out of DFW? Watch out American. But hey, thanks for the additional business. Wait- 'Thanks allmighty NW for letting us stay in business'.

If you say they're pulling back to the hubs, why are they trying new point-to-point flying against a competitor?

 

[smellthejeta]

Your post is funny. NW is 0-2. You guys showed us. So I guess their move is like Delta out of DFW? Watch out American. But hey, thanks for the additional business. Wait- 'Thanks allmighty NW for letting us stay in business'.

If you say they're pulling back to the hubs, why are they trying new point-to-point flying against a competitor?

Well, NW has a huge elite base in MKE that they were trying to capitalize on. Second, I know WI was giving some significant tax breaks to any airline who had a large enough presence in that state.