Northwest gets fighter escort

[720persecond]

You do realize that a person can only be elected for two terms as President....

(Proving, yet again, that liberal=uninformed)

Senate and House elections seem to be approaching...Who's uninformed ?

 

[720persecond]

It must be fun, wearing your tie-die shirt and living with your fuzzy animal dolls in your cozy little time machine, stuck back on 9/10/2001.

I defended my country as much or more than the average flightinfo user. Now go back to watching Fox and gobble all the fear media and government can instill in you

 

[big_al]

It must be fun, wearing your tie-die shirt and living with your fuzzy animal dolls in your cozy little time machine, stuck back on 9/10/2001.

it must be fun, wearing your blinders and living in 1950, pretending like the world changed after 9-11. the only thing that changed is the amount of hatred towards outsiders by sheepish Americans such as yourself

 

[big_al]

You do realize that a person can only be elected for two terms as President....

(Proving, yet again, that liberal=uninformed)

hahahhahaha

liberal=uninformed?

so is that why intellectuals are always liberal?

you fail to understand the vote for me means a vote for my PARTY

 

[ksu_aviator]

it must be fun, wearing your blinders and living in 1950, pretending like the world changed after 9-11.

Anyone else see anything wrong with this sentence?

 

[ksu_aviator]

hahahhahaha

liberal=uninformed?

so is that why intellectuals are always liberal?

you fail to understand the vote for me means a vote for my PARTY

An intellectual is a person who uses his or her intellect to study, reflect, speculate on, or ask and answer questions with regard to a variety of different ideas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual

Now does that really sound like a liberal? Liberals are more intolerant of other ideas than any other political group. Even racists will let blacks work for them, but tell a liberal you are a conservative and “Katie bar the door!” You might as well be Hitler himself. Just look at the posts above and tell me that they don’t look down on conservatives.

One who despises people or things regarded as inferior, especially because of social or intellectual pretension. http://www.answers.com/topic/elitist

Now that sounds like a liberal.

 

[JimNtexas]

Liberals whose positions are defined almost entirely by wishful thinking.

Their main wish being for a world in which conservatives just shut up and work and pay high taxes so that they can enjoy cushy goverment jobs, grants, and 'entitlements'. And of course they like to project the blame for their own failures on those mean "others".

 

[JimNtexas]

You left out the part where the Michigan cell phone arrestees were released because they were not linked to terrorism.

That's not really true. They were released because it is not a crime to buy cell phones. In fact, its not a crime to support terrorism, or Kerry, Dean, Moore, and Carter would all be in jail.

I'd still like to understand how I can buy a Trac phone at Walmart, throw away the charger, and then resell the phone for a profit.

The rules of war are different than the rules of peacetime law enforcement, a distinction of which ignorant and silly liberals do not understand.

I certainly hope the FBI is watching these cell phones guys very closely, and monitoring all their electronic communications. The first time they communicate with Islamic fascists they need a ticket to Gitmo as POWs for the duration.

 

[_BravoWhiskey_]

Acting weird is what muslims are all about.

LOL, wow, I get screamed at when I say this sort of thing. (Of course, it is true)

 

[accinelli]

profiling is great. lets arrest everyone with a suit and tie, they might be a corporate criminal. dont forget any guy who still lives with his parents over the age of 30, he is probably a child molestor. and the lonely guy who lives secluded in the wood, most definately a mail bomber or serial killer.

oh wait, its more fun to profile people of another race. how silly of me.

Amen. Like I said typical case of a NW crew over-reacting. But the cover-up was even better -- passengers not wearing seatbelts when the sign was illuminated -- during the climb. Oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[JimNtexas]

This was probably another dry run, similar to those observed by actor James Wood prior to 9/11.

I just an account that says the Captain left the cockpit during the altercation. Surely that cannot be true?

 

[filejw]

JN where did you get altercation? There was no altercation,not even close.Plus the DC 10 has 3 pilots and one can leave if they want.Doubt it was the Ca thou.

 

[FN FAL]

This was probably another dry run, similar to those observed by actor James Wood prior to 9/11.

I heard James' wood had a lot of dry runs prior to 9/11.

Several weeks before the attacks, the actor James Woods was in the first-class section of a cross-country flight to Los Angeles.

Four of his fellow-passengers were well-dressed men who appeared to be Middle Eastern and were obviously travelling together. "I watch people like a moviemaker," Woods told me. "As in that scene in 'Annie Hall' "-where Woody Allen and Diane Keaton are sitting on a bench in Central Park speculating on the personal lives of passers-by. "I thought these guys were either terrorists or F.B.I. guys," Woods went on. "The guys were in synch-dressed alike. They didn't have a drink and were not talking to the stewardess. None of them had a carry-on or a newspaper. Nothing.

"Imagine you're at a live-music event at a small night club and you're standing behind the singer. Everybody is clapping, going along, enjoying the show- and there's four guys paying no attention. What are they doing here?" Woods concluded that the men were "casing" the plane. He said that his concern led him to hang on to his cutlery after lunch. He shared his worries with a flight attendant. "I said, 'I think this plane is going to be hijacked.' I told her, 'I know how serious it is to say this,' and asked to speak to the captain." The flight attendant, too, was concerned. The plane's first officer came over immediately and assured Woods that he and the captain would keep the door to the cockpit locked. The remainder of the trip was bumpy but uneventful, and Woods recalled laughingly telling his agent, who asked about the flight, "Aside from the terrorists and the turbulence, it was fine."

Woods said that the flight attendant told him that she would file a report about the suspicious passengers. If she did, her report probably ended up in a regional Federal Aviation Authority office in Tulsa, or perhaps Dallas, according to Clark Onstad, the former chief counsel of the F.A.A., and disappeared in the bureaucracy.

"If you ever walked into one of these offices, you'd see that they have no secretaries," Onstad told me. "These guys are buried under a mountain of paper, and the odds of this"-a report about suspicious passengers-"coming up to a higher level are very low."

Even today, eight months after the hijacking, Onstad said, the question "Where would you effectively report something like this so that it would get attention?" has no practical answer.

Throughout the spring and early summer of 2001, intelligence agencies flooded the government with warnings of possible terrorist attacks against American targets, including commercial aircraft, by Al Qaeda and other groups. The warnings were vague but sufficiently alarming to prompt the F.A.A. to issue four information circulars, or I.C.s, to the commercial airline industry between June 22nd and July 31st, warning of possible terrorism.

One circular, from late July, noted, according to Condoleezza Rice, that there was "no specific target, no credible info of attack to U.S. civil-aviation interests, but terror groups are known to be planning and training for hijackings, and we ask you therefore to use caution."

For years, however, the airlines had essentially disregarded the F.A.A.'s information circulars. "I.C.s don't require special measures," a former high-level F.A.A. official told me. "To get the airlines to react, you have to send a Security Directive"-a high-priority message that, under F.A.A. regulations, mandates an immediate response. Without a directive, the American airline industry was operating in a business-as-usual manner when Woods noticed the suspicious passengers on his flight.

On the evening of September 11th, Woods telephoned the Los Angeles office of the F.B.I. and told a special agent about the encounter. In an interview on Fox Television in February, Woods described being awakened at six-forty-five the next morning by a telephone call from the agent. "I said, 'I'll get ready and I'll come down to the federal building,' " Woods recounted. "He said, 'That's O.K. We're outside your house.' " By then, Woods told me, he was no longer certain of the date of his trip. "The first thing I said is 'I'm not sure which flight it was on.' " But he had a vivid memory of the men's faces. When he was shown photographs, Woods thought he recognized two of the hijackers-Hamza Alghamdi, who flew on United Airlines Flight 175, which struck the south tower of the World Trade Center, and Khalid Almihdhar, who was on American Airlines Flight 77, which struck the Pentagon. One of the men stood out because of his "pointy hair," Woods told me, and the other looked like one of the characters in the movie version of John le Carre's "The Little Drummer Girl."

A senior F.B.I. official told me that the bureau had subsequently investigated Woods's story but had not been able to find evidence of the hijackers on the flight Woods thought he had taken. "We don't know for sure," the official said.

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[filejw]

A little bird told me the gentleman on flt 42 were Merchant Marines returning home to India.Having flown this flt many times I know the sailors returning to India are regular customers.The lead sailor collected all the company cell phones for security inspection at the gate in AMS.At top of climb he just started handing them out.Apparently the FAM didn't like what he observed and order the flt back to AMS even thought the crew was OK with the explanation from the sailors.Funny thing is I had a similar incident with 2 sailors in BOM just last week.The S/O and I resolved it to our satisfaction right at the gate.