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Easy guys, let's play this like the professionals we are. We know for a fact your remaining investors are not happy with the uncle Ricky show, we know flight options pilots have been fed up for years. Depose the maniacal liar and we both may get somewhere. What do our multimillion dollar owners want to hear? Made up stories from Kenny or the truth? Depose the shister!
 
I guess years of experience and unfounded maintenance discrepancies have led you to that decision? The remaining pilots willing to take a stand against the unequivocal reduced maintenance practices ought to be enough
To wake you up. But sure it will
Take more than that until there is a fatality and you have an individual killed with a net worth over 10 million. Should be good for business.
 
Despite the personal attacks, I'm sure the professional pilots will continue to do an excellent job. As their desperation increases, expect more out of RH and company. The pilots are the last line of defense in keeping us and our passengers safe.
 
I heard an Options pilot ran into RH at the Holiday Inn TEB. They started out with a friendly tone talking about regular pilot stuff until RH wanted to know why he was getting picked on. They told him he wasn't being picked on, and they were just trying to set the record straight. Of coarse the volume increased until RH had to leave.
 
The widely ignored online advice is: Don't feed the troll. It applies in real life as well.

RH: Why am I being picked on?

reply: I don't know, I guess some people just don't 'get' you. See ya.

Spend less time making things personal with WL/RH and more time getting out relevant information. Ignore the the person, crush the life out of his words.
 
The widely ignored online advice is: Don't feed the troll. It applies in real life as well.

But he makes it so easy.

While I'm no longer invested in whether or not you unionize, I do hope the best for you guys.

I find it so funny when I came back to check up that warlord is still deperately firing blanks. He keeps referring to captain crunch so I guess this makes him Jon-Erik Hexum. I'd rather be a time-tested, sweet delicious cereal loved by kids and PMSing women everywhere than a two bit actor no one remembers except in terms of his legacy of exceedingly bad choices born out of arrogance. One day pilots will talk of warlord and the rest of Ricci's fellators only in the past tense and scratch their heads to remember anything specific about them. The least we can do for him out of the kindness of our hearts is to give him some attention now because his future is bleak. Very bleak.

Warlord always accused me of being a dude. It used to irritate me until someone filled me in he's a beard so it only makes sense. It made me kinda sad for him actually but then did explain how he is able to keep a woman around.

Good luck Flexjet! What's happened to you is a damn shame. A real damn shame. I hope the union can salvage out a decent place to work for you.
 
I heard an Options pilot ran into RH at the Holiday Inn TEB. They started out with a friendly tone talking about regular pilot stuff until RH wanted to know why he was getting picked on. They told him he wasn't being picked on, and they were just trying to set the record straight. Of coarse the volume increased until RH had to leave.

You're being too nice. I heard he ran out like a little bitch. Or disgruntled toddler. Take your pick.

It's very telling he specifically chose to be away at TEB. Was it a desperate attempt to take the focus off of the real event of the week? A chance host another no-show smokescreen "party" vs attend a gathering for 50 people who are out of a job thanks to him. All those years working side by side and he just couldn't handle a goodbye. Well, at least even he understood the hypocrisy and stayed away.

I wonder if he'll ever address "his side of the story" to the pilot group about the exchange or if he's desperately hoping the pilot group doesn't find out about it. How embarrassing. Just exactly what did he think he'd get with his deception and backstabbing? A free pass? He is delusional. If I didn't hold him personally responsible for the demise of Flexjet, I'd almost feel sorry for his desperate patheticness.
 
If you notice, he has a history of running.
Supposedly went to a Boy Scout Jamboree the same week Ricci screwed DO guys on their bonus
Ran to TEB the week of shutting down Waterview
Ran to his room when presented with the legal and correct facts, I don't think he even last 10 minutes before he scampered off.
 
If you notice, he has a history of running.
Supposedly went to a Boy Scout Jamboree the same week Ricci screwed DO guys on their bonus
Ran to TEB the week of shutting down Waterview
Ran to his room when presented with the legal and correct facts, I don't think he even last 10 minutes before he scampered off.

Speaking of legal and correct facts, my understanding is court reporters take a verbatim approach in their work. I feel sorry for future generations of students who will read back these historic transcripts (this decision was huge - and has much bigger implications than we even have a clue about now) and have to weed through miles of ummmms, throat clearings and chair twisting when RH testified. You guys have no idea of what he's been up to. From what I hear, the little bit "leaked" in the arbitrators ruling, later clarified by the 1108 President, isn't even the half of it.

Flexwife, family (unless they insert themselves) should be off limits. Just because Warlord's wife is assumed to have taken a dyke hike or two doesn't make him a beard, it could be she's just used to especially tiny organs.
 
Who let the dogs out?

Flex*wife, I thought we had a special thang going on…now you make it sound like we’re just an old married couple….guess nothing lasts forever. Hope you have found nirvana, wherever that may be. If your former lemmings had not come out immediately after the purchase of Flexjet and started their over-the-top campaign of hatred and fear-mongering against everyone not pro-union, starting with Deanna and led by the fearless Cap’n Crunch, you would have never heard from me. Their lies continue to this day, claiming our beloved scheduler was fired/resigned this week. Apparently a few of our originally pro-union guys that have some INTEGRITY got tired of all the BS and withdrew from your esteemed organization. Just saying.

Now you say I’ll be flushed down the memory hole like a used tampon…..not a pleasant thought, huh? Perhaps we could get together for one last, you know, visit. If not, Bon Voyage.

For all you Flexjet folks sitting on the fence (not a whole lot, I’ve heard), I would encourage you to look at http://yourchoicepilots.com. You might discover that the promises of Duhh and his acolytes are written on water.

Ya’ll lighten up a bit and enjoy the upcoming week-end. First round is on me. LOL

Cheers,
WL19/RH/Elvis/BigFoot
 
For all you Flexjet folks sitting on the fence (not a whole lot, I?ve heard), I would encourage you to look at http://yourchoicepilots.com. You might discover that the promises of Duhh and his acolytes are written on water.


Cheers,
WL19/RH/Elvis/BigFoot

Extrememly unoriginal RH, if you are going to post on here, and try to say you are not RH, then do not end your post with the same exact type of paragraph that all of the management emails end with now a days. Trying to tell us to go to the stupid website that is full of lies.

And you couldn't even be original in how you wrote it on here.
From a Jason Weiss letter;

"For those of you interested in more of the truth, I encourage you to visit"
 
Who let the dogs out?

Flex*wife, I thought we had a special thang going on?now you make it sound like we?re just an old married couple?.guess nothing lasts forever. Hope you have found nirvana, wherever that may be. If your former lemmings had not come out immediately after the purchase of Flexjet and started their over-the-top campaign of hatred and fear-mongering against everyone not pro-union, starting with Deanna and led by the fearless Cap?n Crunch, you would have never heard from me. Their lies continue to this day, claiming our beloved scheduler was fired/resigned this week. Apparently a few of our originally pro-union guys that have some INTEGRITY got tired of all the BS and withdrew from your esteemed organization. Just saying.

Now you say I?ll be flushed down the memory hole like a used tampon?..not a pleasant thought, huh? Perhaps we could get together for one last, you know, visit. If not, Bon Voyage.

For all you Flexjet folks sitting on the fence (not a whole lot, I?ve heard), I would encourage you to look at http://yourchoicepilots.com. You might discover that the promises of Duhh and his acolytes are written on water.

Ya?ll lighten up a bit and enjoy the upcoming week-end. First round is on me. LOL

Cheers,
WL19/RH/Elvis/BigFoot

RH. I'm Not sure what you are implying about flexwife, but you are not supposed to use her used tampon string to floss your teeth. FYI
 
Rick, rumor has it you weren't just kicked out of the office for your racial slur against JC. You were also caught looking at porn on your company computer/device? I'm just "wandering" if that is true? (Hint: I already know the answer to that question.)
 
Got your pilot's back Rick? Looks like you are the one who threw them under the bus.


TIMELINE OF YAMMER POSTS AND E-MAILS
On January 28th there was a series of posts on Yammer between V.P. of Flight Operations Rick
Handschuch, Capt. Macek and F/O Regan. Handschuch informed Macek:
?This [Flexjet] is a new company with new owners. They have every right to do what they want
and will.?
Macek replied (in part):
?Our company does not have new Owners. We have an individual with an exceptional ability to
fund raise. Our Owners are still the same, plus maybe a few new ones. Are you sure DAC has
the ability to ?do whatever they want and will???
Sometime later Handschuch posted:
?Throwing darts at me is one thing, but referring to the guy who signs your paycheck as ?We
have an individual who is in charge with an exceptional ability to fund raise?.Are you sure DAC
has the ability to ?do whatever they want and will?? is down right insubordinate. Let me ask you
a question: why would you say that here when I?m pretty certain you wouldn?t dare say that to
his face? He deserves your respect not the other way around. You crossed the line my friend.
But that?s all I?m going to say here. We will talk about this elsewhere.?
So, what did F/O Regan do to get fired? He, too, posted on Yammer. He expressed his unhappiness
with the STIP bonus system and the crewmember employment agreements the Flexjet pilots were all
forced to sign after Ricci took control. He agreed with Macek?s comments and posted the following:
?Scott Macek- a-friggin-men!!!?
Of note, several other pilots agreed with Macek?s post by indicating ?Like? on Yammer. None of
them got terminated, because none of them were part of the organizing effort.
What, then, exactly happened ?elsewhere,? as Handschuch puts it? We have hard documentation of
a January 29, 2015 e-mail exchange between Ricci and his senior executive team discussing Macek?s
and Regan?s posts. After reading the morning summary of Yammer postings he receives on a daily
basis, Ricci sent the following e-mail to Handschuch at 10:21 AM:
?Rick
Do you have a minute to discuss Scott and Kevin
Thanks
Kenn?
An hour later, he fired off the following e-mail to OneSky V.P. of Human Resources Bob Sullivan:
?Who are these Scott and Kevin guys??
Ten minutes later, Sullivan sent an e-mail to Handschuch and OneSky Director of Human Resources
Eric Gerhard, asking:
?Get me some info on him [Scott Macek] please. Aircraft, hired, discipline??
Handschuch replied to Sullivan at 12:32 PM:
?Talked with Jason a few minutes ago and Eric this morning. We are putting together a plan,
this guy [Scott Macek] is way over the line Bob.?
Handschuch then sent the following e-mail to Ricci at 1:34 PM:
?Kenn, call me when you get a chance. Talked with Jason and Eric this morning. Scott in
particular is way over the line. I reminded the guys earlier this month that this was a forum for
them to talk freely but do not personally attack anyone. I don't mind them throwing the
occasional dart at me but I take offense at them doing it to other management and especially you.
We will handle this next week, Jason is a little concerned about the timing but we will work it
out. Look forward to talking to you and remember it?s not the view of the majority. In fact I
have received many calls, e-mails and text from the pilots that want their heads to roll.?
Ricci sent the following e-mail at 3:23 PM (errors in the original e-mail text):
?Bob/Jason
Talked to Ric and we need to let these two guys go. I know it is fodder for the Union but I don't
think the whole group feels this way and the seniority integratin issue can be driven home to
********************er any of this
FYI..Scott used to be at FO and he is just not a smart guy
Let me know if you have any other thoughts, otherwise, get this done next rotation
Thanks?
Jason Weiss, V.P. of Operations, jumped in late at 6:09 PM when he sent Ricci the following e-mail:
?Sorry just got off an airplane. Understood, we are on it.?
 
Got this from a Flexjet pilot. Interesting - we had management guys here at Netjets get fired recently for similar actions against our pilots.


August 25, 2015
Fellow Flight Options and Flexjet Pilots,
In an article published in Aviation International News (AIN) on August 20, 2015, Kenn Ricci is quoted as saying the
following about Arbitrator Josh Javits’ decision to return three illegally fired Flexjet pilots back to work and make
them whole for any economic losses they suffered:
“We strongly disagree with the conclusions of arbitrator Joshua Javits that the dismissal of the three pilots was
the result of retaliation for protected behavior,” said Flexjet chairman Kenn Ricci. “In reality, the three pilots
were terminated for using abusive and intimidating tactics against their fellow Flexjet pilots that run counter to
the terms of their employee contract.”
Seriously??? We have read Arbitrator Javits’ very detailed decision. Mr. Javits—a former President Reagan
appointee to be Member and Chair of the National Mediation Board (NMB)—is one of the most distinguished and
respected Arbitrators in the entire country. He is a recognized labor law scholar and former adjunct professor at the
prestigious Georgetown University Law Center. He participates in over 40 neutral arbitration panels and has
arbitrated over 2000 cases. Javits began his career as a trial attorney with the National Labor Relations Board
(NLRB) and has represented both labor unions and management at different times in the past. He recently served as
Chair of the Grievance Committee of the International Monetary Fund. (Look him up on the Internet.) Who is Kenn
Ricci to question this esteemed man’s judgment?
The Arbitrator determined that Ricci and his management team had violated federal law by firing three pilots who are
members of the Flexjet Pilots Organizing Committee (FJ-POC) for exercising their rights to engage in protected
activity under the Railway Labor Act (RLA). He saw management’s tactics for what they really were and stated:
“All of the evidence suggests that the Carrier’s actions were, at least in part, motivated by anti-union
animus…the Carrier violated the protections of the RLA by discharging three (3) strongly pro-union pilots in the
middle of a union-organizing drive. There was no cause for the Carrier’s actions…the Carrier’s discharges of
the Employees were unlawful because they were based on retaliation for what was a protected activity.”
He further stated:
“It appears that Carrier management was not consistent in how it applied Social Media policy to those subject to
it. To summarily discharge two (2) relatively long-term employees for posting mildly critical comments while at
the same time tolerating anti-union comments that were just as offensive satisfies the Arbitrator that Captain
Macek and F/O Regan were subject to disparate treatment.”
Once again, Ricci has been caught grossly misrepresenting the facts in public, just like he previously embellished
several other subjects, such as his “military trained” background. After losing the arbitration, Ricci now fabricates
things that never happened in an attempt to camouflage his illegal actions. During the entirety of this litigation, the
company contended Capt. Scott Macek and F/O Kevin Regan were fired because of what they posted on Yammer on


January 28, 2015. Management argued the posts were “disrespectful of Chairman Ricci.” On the day they were
fired, both pilots were told it was because they were “unhappy.” Now, Ricci claims these pilots did something else,
altogether.
As you can see from the attached Timeline of Yammer and e-mail evidence presented at the arbitration hearing, the
knee-jerk decision to fire Macek and Regan was made by Ricci, himself. The entire decision process from start to
finish took only about five hours for him to tell his underlings, “…we need to let these two guys go.” No hearings, no
due process, no thorough investigation, not even the unfair procedures “guaranteed” by Flexjet’s Yellow-Dog
crewmember employment agreements—just his imperial decree.
The company’s attorneys consistently argued at the hearing and in their legal briefs that management fired Macek and
Regan for Yammer posts considered “over the line.” However, the evidence is quite clear—management had gotten
wind of the pending organizing drive and Ricci decided to do what he could to stop it, just like he had done more than
ten years ago right after the TravelAir/Flight Options merger. As was previously reported, he fired five pilot
organizers in 2002—Flight Options eventually paid very hefty sums of hush money to settle the ensuing federal
lawsuit.
In his book, Management by Trust, this is how Ricci describes the termination process:
"One of the most difficult decisions any company or manager must face is when to let an employee go…Because
they are such emotional issues, involving the career of someone who may be supporting an entire family on the
salary that you pay, it is essential that you base such decisions on sound and consistent reasoning.”
Is a mere five hours sufficient time for “sound and consistent reasoning?” Hardly. This was a calculated
assassination. As was stated by the Arbitrator in his award, the terminations were “designed to send a chilling
message to pilots who were strongly supportive of the IBT’s organizing drive.” So, what did Ricci do after the
terminations he ordered were reversed because they were not only unfair, but illegal? Did he ask forgiveness for
attempting to destroy these pilots’ careers and ruin the lives of the families that depend upon them? No, instead he
went back on the attack and publically misrepresented the facts.
In one of his e-mails, Ricci described his decision to fire Macek and Regan this way: “I know it is fodder for the
Union...” There it is in black and white—the proverbial “smoking gun” in Ricci’s hand! He fired Macek and Regan
for their union activity and, as he went on to state in the attached e-mail, he expected “the seniority integrati[o]n
issue can be driven home” to mitigate any adverse reaction from the pilot group. I couldn’t make up this kind of
arrogance and deceit, even if I wanted to.
If there was ever any doubt in your mind that Ricci and others in his senior management team cannot be trusted, here,
once again, is proof positive. The evidence is not only overwhelming, it is compelling and irrefutable. It should
convince every Flight Options and Flexjet pilot that we need a strong Union to protect ourselves from the vicious and
unscrupulous people that are running this company? Obviously, Ricci and his management team believe the rules
that the government expects the rest of us to live by do not apply to them. If they get caught doing something
wrong—such as violating federal law—they just rewrite history to match Ricci’s “vision” and distorted view of
events.
Management’s repeated failures to tell the truth reminds me of the following quote from Adolf Hilter, “If you tell a
big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
 
Great thing is he can disagree until the cows come home but from what I understand it was binding arbitration which means its final. His true business philosophy and philosophy in life is, It is better to beg forgiveness than ask permission and there is nothing money can't fix, he just doesn't like spending it unless it is spent fighting with the Union.
 

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