NO please at Tranny!!

[airline#5]

I am so sick of all you satistied tranny types, mostly capt.'s that think that pay rates are not the issue. Total BS!!! It is the main issue for FO's who will stay that way for a long time. $hit pay/decent schedule or good pay/ bad schedule. I learned to live with both, but this place wants to pay fo's terribly and bend em over with bad work rules too.....NO

 

[ATLDRVR]

So are you saying if they paid you more you would be ok with crap work rules? Because there is more to this contract than just pay.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

Anyone else not able to access the NPA web site?

 

[FIREMAN]

Anyone else not able to access the NPA web site?

More NPA spinning. "sorry can not post TA2 due to web site problems so voting will be delayed longer"

 

[Lear70]

That likely means they're uploading the new page and checking links. They pull it down every time they upload new information.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

We the FO have the power to vote it down. We need to educate any FO that thiinks this is a good deal.

 

[Murphy]

Reserve guarantee was down to 70 hours in the LAFO. That's below industry standard. Min guarantee for reserves at Continental and Delta get 5 hours more guarantee than line holders. Continental reserve pilots are guaranteed 12 days off for either 76 or 72 hours depending on whether they are Reserve A or B. Reserves also have daily open time pickup periods. The way I read it, Continental reserves are released to their next telephone availability period when they get back from a trip. Compare those rules to what can happen to you at AirTran when you get back from an assignment. It is worth everyone's time to read other airline contracts. Even watered down post 9/11 and bankruptcy stripped contracts have better work rules than what we are trying to be sold. Don't be led down the primrose path.

 

[ASA]

Leonard and his guys are smart businessmen. They are pleased when pilots quit. They would love to see the most senior pilot here be a 5-year guy. Of course that's not going to happen. The senior guys will stay. On the other hand, they don't particularly like to see first or second year guys quit, because they probably haven't recouped training/new hire costs yet.

But to make this a not-so-pleasant place to work and to have 3-5 year guys quit to go to the "majors" is a desirable situation for this management. Get a new guy in, keep the rates low. Let the "majors" deal with senior, happy pilots, making a lot of money. We'll keep this place relatively junior, people who just sort of "ended up" at AirTran.

Leonard, Kolski, not good guys. But they know how to make themselves an extra million or two every time. And a weak pilot group lets them do it.

 

[Diesel-9]

INfo from last fall. May be some updates. Please chime in. Reserve Min. Monthly Guarantee. DAL/UAL 70, AAA 72, AMR 73, NWA/ALA 75, CAL 76, AWA 77. Min Duty period/Trip rig. DAL 5:15/1:3.5, NWA 5.00/1:3.75, AAA 5.00/1:3.5, UAL 5.00/1:4(UAL LCO has no duty rig :-(, AMR 3.00/1:3.5, CAL none/1:4 :-( CAL needs to raise the bar on workrules. Hasn't it been over 10 years since the 2nd CH-11? AMR/NWA have single duty period minimums of 5.00/4:15.

 

[FIREMAN]

"There was a power outage last night during a storm and the NPA web site server is down. We are making repairs and hope to have it up later today. Once the site is up, the recent August TA will be posted with the associated comparison charts. Also, there will be a video explaining highlights and how and why we got to this TA. We will email you with links when the web site is back up"


ie- we do not want you to read the TA2 without our spin video


the site was down well befor the storms in ATL.