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I have 400 hours and I want a job but I don't want to be an Instructor, would'nt it be better if I went to the right seat of a king air?
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My dumb question: What can we do to weed out people who ask this question?
 
toneal said:

pitch for airspeed power for altitude or pitch for altitude power for airspeed?


I know I am a little slow, but what exactly are you refering to here? What is wrong with this question?

Anyway great thread!
 
My clueless, non-pilot family/family friends:

"You're a flight instructor, does that mean you teach in a classroom?? When do you get to be a commercial pilot?..."

and my favorite:

"They let girls fly airplanes? When did that happen?"
 
Conversation I had recently with a former boss of mine: (it really did happen. No embellishment either.)
Him: "So, you want to be a pilot someday, huh?"
Me: "I already am a pilot."
Him: "No, I mean a real pilot."
Me: "I am a 'real' pilot."
Him: "Well fine. I'm not going to split hairs with you. Are you aloud to start an airplane by yourself?"
Me: "Of course I can start an airplane by myself."
Him: "Well, are you aloud to take off by yourself?"
Me: "Of course I can take off by myself!!!"
Him: "Well, I mean, I know you can take off when there is an instructor in the plane, but you aren't aloud to fly the airplane when no instructor is in it, right?"
Me: "Blake. I am certified by the FAA to fly airplanes. I am aloud to fly by myself. If I wanted to, I could put my family in an airplane and fly them from here to Florida!"
Him: "Oh, I see. So your only aloud to fly your family, not friends or anybody else, right? Well, let me ask you this. Are you aloud to take off from one airport but land at another?"
Me: "I give up."
 
brianjohn said:
Conversation I had recently with a former boss of mine: (it really did happen. No embellishment either.)
Him: "So, you want to be a pilot someday, huh?"
Me: "I already am a pilot."
Him: "No, I mean a real pilot."
Me: "I am a 'real' pilot."
Him: "Well fine. I'm not going to split hairs with you. Are you aloud to start an airplane by yourself?"
Me: "Of course I can start an airplane by myself."
Him: "Well, are you aloud to take off by yourself?"
Me: "Of course I can take off by myself!!!"
Him: "Well, I mean, I know you can take off when there is an instructor in the plane, but you aren't aloud to fly the airplane when no instructor is in it, right?"
Me: "Blake. I am certified by the FAA to fly airplanes. I am aloud to fly by myself. If I wanted to, I could put my family in an airplane and fly them from here to Florida!"
Him: "Oh, I see. So your only aloud to fly your family, not friends or anybody else, right? Well, let me ask you this. Are you aloud to take off from one airport but land at another?"
Me: "I give up."



Oh, that's too funny! As I was reading this I was thinking it was a former boss in an aviation job.........but apparently not!
 

Can you explain that again in a way that agrees with my preconceived answers to my questions?
That seems to be the threshold question to a great many questions.

In other words, as Jack Nicholson said, "You can't handle the truth!!"
 
Great Thread.

I saw the following while looking something up for my wife. I bet Kit Darby and Gulfstream are involved somehow.



The State University of New York and State Education Department have approved Jamestown Community College's Associate in Applied Science professional pilot degree program. JCC will be the only community college in the region to offer a professional piloting program.

The program is designed to prepare students to work toward careers as airline pilots. Graduates will complete approximately 250 flight hours and will hold a private pilot license, instrument rating, commercial pilot airplane single-engine certificate, and certified flight instructor airplane ratings.

According to Rick Rupprecht, JCC's assistant dean of science, mathematics, engineering, and technology, the program has been designed to address a critical need for trained pilots in the United States. "The FAA has forecast the need for pilots to increase to a minimum of 849,200 in 2025 from the current 618,300 employed today," he notes. "Based on the FAA report, as well as independent surveys conducted by JCC among national and regional air carriers and fixed base operators, JCC decided to formulate a program to help meet the need."

Driving the pilot shortage are several factors, including: federal regulations requiring pilots to retire at age 60; expected growth in passenger transport; the requirement of many airlines that pilots be college graduates; and the inability of flight schools to meet the demand for trained pilots. The lack of pilots has prompted several commuter airlines to curtail their services in many areas of the country, added Rupprecht.

Students will take their flight instruction at the Chautauqua County Airports in either Dunkirk or Jamestown, NY, through a contract with Dunkirk Aviation. The 60-credit hour program includes 29 credit hours in general education courses and 31 in aviation-related coursework.

Approximately 37 students are currently enrolled in the second year of the program. Program information and admission procedures can be obtained by calling JCC's admissions office, 800/388-8557 or email [email protected]jcc
 
Checks said:
Great Thread.

I saw the following while looking something up for my wife. I bet Kit Darby and Gulfstream are involved somehow.



The State University of New York and State Education Department have approved Jamestown Community College's Associate in Applied Science professional pilot degree program. JCC will be the only community college in the region to offer a professional piloting program.

The program is designed to prepare students to work toward careers as airline pilots. Graduates will complete approximately 250 flight hours and will hold a private pilot license, instrument rating, commercial pilot airplane single-engine certificate, and certified flight instructor airplane ratings.

According to Rick Rupprecht, JCC's assistant dean of science, mathematics, engineering, and technology, the program has been designed to address a critical need for trained pilots in the United States. "The FAA has forecast the need for pilots to increase to a minimum of 849,200 in 2025 from the current 618,300 employed today," he notes. "Based on the FAA report, as well as independent surveys conducted by JCC among national and regional air carriers and fixed base operators, JCC decided to formulate a program to help meet the need."

Driving the pilot shortage are several factors, including: federal regulations requiring pilots to retire at age 60; expected growth in passenger transport; the requirement of many airlines that pilots be college graduates; and the inability of flight schools to meet the demand for trained pilots. The lack of pilots has prompted several commuter airlines to curtail their services in many areas of the country, added Rupprecht.

Students will take their flight instruction at the Chautauqua County Airports in either Dunkirk or Jamestown, NY, through a contract with Dunkirk Aviation. The 60-credit hour program includes 29 credit hours in general education courses and 31 in aviation-related coursework.

Approximately 37 students are currently enrolled in the second year of the program. Program information and admission procedures can be obtained by calling JCC's admissions office, 800/388-8557 or email [email protected]jcc


Oh that is just too good! Thats up there with the often told lie that you can get all your certificates in the minimum time required while also working and taking college classes full time!
 
<Sigh>

Checks said:
I saw the following while looking something up for my wife. I bet Kit Darby and Gulfstream are involved somehow.

According to Rick Rupprecht, JCC's assistant dean of science, mathematics, engineering, and technology, the program has been designed to address a critical need for trained pilots in the United States. "The FAA has forecast the need for pilots to increase to a minimum of 849,200 in 2025 from the current 618,300 employed today," he notes. "Based on the FAA report, as well as independent surveys conducted by JCC among national and regional air carriers and fixed base operators, JCC decided to formulate a program to help meet the need."

Driving the pilot shortage are several factors, including: federal regulations requiring pilots to retire at age 60; expected growth in passenger transport; the requirement of many airlines that pilots be college graduates; and the inability of flight schools to meet the demand for trained pilots. The lack of pilots has prompted several commuter airlines to curtail their services in many areas of the country, added Rupprecht.
We had a discussion a couple of weeks ago about similar koolaid that Dr. Harvey Birdseye at Lane Community College in Oregon was dispensing.

I'd bet that Dr. Birdseye and Dr. Rupprecht went to the same Kit Darby seminar, entitled "How To Force The Pilot Shortage Down The Throat of Higher Education."
 
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There oughta be a law...

I think that maybe we should send some furloughees (Call 'em "Reality Delagates") to these schools mad try to wise up these students before their preconceived notions fuel the hiring another Freedom Airlines.
 
You gotta love this one

Does anyone have any info on PAYING for experience at Eagle Jet International?


Another question I got asked recently was from a News Crew that came into work the other day. They asked me this:

Are you old enough to be a commercial pilot? (All while I stood there in my flight instructor's uniform)
 
Old Lady boards and looks into cockpit, I smile and say good morning.

Q: Son, are you old enough to fly this thing?

(I am 31)

A: No Mam, I just have my learner's permit.

:D
 
Shh, don't tell!

jdru25 said:
Are you old enough to be a commercial pilot? (All while I stood there in my flight instructor's uniform)

Just a funny aside: There exists a response within the FAA Part 61 FAQs in which John Lynch states "[the] CFI is not really a 'pilot' rating." Completely out of context, but kind of humorous in the light of this thread. :)
 
haha funny thread!!!

As a 135 people taxi pilot...I was flying into Madison, WI. in a Navajo. We were just returning from STP and had an EXTRA passenger on the return flight. As we are being vectored towards the airport, the Extra passenger taps me on the shoulder and asks..."are we landing at MADISON?" and I said "yes?!!?" Like I'm thinking, what planet did this joker come from and... hey, put down that dang crack pipe...no smoking in the plane! Well with that, the guy then taps me on the shoulder again and asks, " you mean WE can land at a COMMERCIAL airport?"

I wanted to reach back and grab that sucker by the chin and the back of the head and snap hard...
 
If a dog sweats through his tongue, what are his armpits for?
 
" Are they still hiring pilots to fly rubber dog S**t out of Hong Kong?"

"Are there any Airlines in the Northeast where I live that have 727's that are hiring?"




__________________________________________________

"Are you an airline pilot?"
"No Ma'am, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night..."
 
Why yes it is.

"Is that a bomb?"

Airshow crowd pointing to the external fuel tank.
 
Re: haha funny thread!!!

WrightAvia said:
...taps me on the shoulder and asks..."are we landing at MADISON?" and I said "yes?!!?"
you missed the perfect opportunity to say something like "I think so...", or maybe say "that'll be the next stop... we're gonna grab some lunch at Xyx first. then we'll be heading to Madison." Say it then smile, and you might not pi$$ 'em off too bad. Still not a good idea for job security, I guess.
 
Since people always used to ask my brother-in-law (Abex 767F/O) if he ever "intended to fly commercially",he tells them he's a Zamboni instructor.His business card says "Nice Ice At A Great Price".I just tell people I'm a heavy-equipment operator at the airport.
 
Interesting thread. How about the people who post questions using an airlines two-letter code, e.g. "What's the deal over at F9?"; "Anyone know if TZ is hiring?"; "What's the outlook at HP?", etc, etc.

Like it takes that much time to actually type Frontier, ATA, America West. At least people will know what the hell you're talking about.
 
"When the airplane moves away from the gate with that little truck, is the airplane pulling the truck or is the truck pushing the airplane?" (She was a blonde.)

"How long do you have to fly [the Brasilia] before they let you fly the real ones?"

"One pilot always talks on the radio? Why do you have to talk on the radio?"
 
A man boards and looks into cockpit, I smile and say good afternoon.

He asks:

Q: Is this plane safe?

A: The plane is but I am not. Muhahaha!


Here's another:

What time does the 2 o'clock flight leave?
 
brianjohn said:
Conversation I had recently with a former boss of mine: (it really did happen. No embellishment either.)
Him: "So, you want to be a pilot someday, huh?"
Me: "I already am a pilot."
Him: "No, I mean a real pilot."
Me: "I am a 'real' pilot."
Him: "Well fine. I'm not going to split hairs with you. Are you aloud to start an airplane by yourself?"
Me: "Of course I can start an airplane by myself."
Him: "Well, are you aloud to take off by yourself?"
Me: "Of course I can take off by myself!!!"
Him: "Well, I mean, I know you can take off when there is an instructor in the plane, but you aren't aloud to fly the airplane when no instructor is in it, right?"
Me: "Blake. I am certified by the FAA to fly airplanes. I am aloud to fly by myself. If I wanted to, I could put my family in an airplane and fly them from here to Florida!"
Him: "Oh, I see. So your only aloud to fly your family, not friends or anybody else, right? Well, let me ask you this. Are you aloud to take off from one airport but land at another?"
Me: "I give up."

Uh...erm..."allowed" (to be permitted).

Aloud (something heard audibly).

Um...okay, right. Thanks. :rolleyes:
 
Aloud (or allowed...whatever) to fly

After I got a nice laugh at the story of the person who didn't believe the pilot was really a pilot, today I had a similar experience with the girl who cuts my hair.

- She asked what was new.

- I responded, "well, I'm almost done with some training that will allow me to fly in clouds" (that's the best way I've come up with to explain an instrument rating to non-aviation folks).

- You mean, like, in those little planes? Wow.

- Yeah, flying is really fantastic. The other day I was flying back from visiting my sister in Portland, and took a little detour to get a little closer to Mt. St. Helens. I got some amazing photos.

- Wow. That sounds great. So, like, do you hire a pilot to go with you?

(doh!)

- Well, actually, I was alone on that flight. I am a pilot.

- But I thought you were in the computer industry.

- Well, yeah, but well, never mind. What's new with you?

...Dave
 
HAhaha.....these posts bring up memories of many conversations that I 've had with people.
I try not to explain the CFI job too in-depth because it tends to confuse people. HA. I don't know why I don't get paid a fixed salary or work a fixed number of hours. I don't know when I'm going to become a Commercial pilot. That depends on when I'm allowed to fly a plane by myself! Don't know the answer to that question either. Err...how can I fly jets if I'm not a Commercial pilot yet?? And I'm not sure how safe those 2-seater toy planes are..should we test it out? Maybe it'll fly; maybe not. :D
 

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