No more ASA new-hire classes til '04

[601Pilot]

ASA classes

RJCAP,

I talked to one of the IPs today and he said we are running 2
classes per month for the RJ, so about 48 spots (one day class
and one night session).

601Pilot

 

[rjcap]

601,

Ok. That should trim it down to 6 months give or take to train everybody.

I predict we start interviewing again in mid to late summer.

Why you might ask ?

The newly announced westward expansion will require additional pilots.

Cheers !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Russ]

I understand its SLC-ONT, but from where to SLC to begin with? You guys got rooked, Comair got Santa Barbara out of the chute.

 

[rjcap]

I understand its SLC-ONT, but from where to SLC to begin with? You guys got rooked, Comair got Santa Barbara out of the chute.

Thats OK. We also got PHX, LAX, Vegas, Denver, Colorado Springs, ABQ, and New Orleans. The rest is still sketchy. I will be curious to see how the pairings work out. It will probably be thin at first.

They finally dropped the maintenance base in Texarkana. That was an absolutely wothless overnight/destination.

Not bad for the month of April. I will still keep my fingers crossed for more CA destinations.

 

[Medeco]

You asked from where?

DFW-SLC

DFW will be the originating city for those that RJCAP listed.

Also, RJCAP, thanks for backing me up before on the furlough issue.

medeco

 

[asarjfo]

Is ONT going to come out of SLC? How about the rest of the new cities? Are they out of DFW or SLC?

Seems like DFW is the place to be right now, I am thinking of moving out there for the faster upgrade. I may be in the right seat forever in ATL.

I'm going back to cali....to cali...to cali

I'm going back to cali....WHAT?......I don't think so!

How about San Diego baby!!!!!

 

[higherflyer]

I predict we start interviewing again in mid to late summer.

I have heard there will be a small class in July.

 

[FL000]

I have heard there will be a small class in July.

You must have heard this from someone outside of ASA. Anyone on the inside would know that we don't plan anything that far out...and I don't mean that as a company slam. It's just that things change too fast to plan on having a small class in July.

 

[regionalcap]

Re: You asked from where?

DFW-SLC

DFW will be the originating city for those that RJCAP listed.

Also, RJCAP, thanks for backing me up before on the furlough issue.

medeco

Actually, it goes DFW-ONT-SLC operated on the 70 seater. There are not any DFW-SLC flights on the schedule. This is straight from the delta website. Good to see this expansion happening.

 

[btflyer2]

Will this expansion affect hiring?

This thread has had lots of talk about expansion, primarily from DFW and westward. But what I can't figure out from these posts is if this will affect hiring. I am in the "pool" and am awaiting a new hire class date. About two weeks ago, pilot recruitment stated that probably no new hire classes til maybe '04.

Everyone seems so excited about this expansion. What I am wondering is if this expansion was what ASA hired for last fall, or is this NEW expansion that may trigger a new hire class soon.

Also, does anyone know how many of us left in the pool? At last count about 30, but that is just everyones guess. Any reliable info on this please post. Thanks.

 

[sleepy]

Re: Will this expansion affect hiring?

This thread has had lots of talk about expansion, primarily from DFW and westward. But what I can't figure out from these posts is if this will affect hiring. I am in the "pool" and am awaiting a new hire class date. About two weeks ago, pilot recruitment stated that probably no new hire classes til maybe '04.

Everyone seems so excited about this expansion. What I am wondering is if this expansion was what ASA hired for last fall, or is this NEW expansion that may trigger a new hire class soon.

Also, does anyone know how many of us left in the pool? At last count about 30, but that is just everyones guess. Any reliable info on this please post. Thanks.

I would say that this is more of a redirection of assets than an expansion. They are shifting flying to DFW. For the year 2003 we will have a net loss of 2-3 aircraft with the retirement of the E-120.

I doubt that last Fall's hiring had anything to do with this redirection of assets. ASA does not usually plan that far in advance. In the company's defense, thay have to react to what Delta tells them to do. Often Delta does not give them much of a head's-up. That is why things change so quickly around here. While they say no hiring untill 2004, that could change next week, depending on what Delta tells them to do.

Things to consider are the retirement of the E-120, that we are in Section 6 contract talks, that DCI is working to even out the DCI flying throughout all of our hubs, that the mainline is still shrinking (with much of that flying being shifted to DCI), that DAL Song will start service this year, the pending war with Iraq, the economy, etc. There are so many variables at play that it is really hard to know what ASA will be doing in the future.

 

[IFLYASA]

I heard today that we will be flying the retired 727's, merging with Comair, getting stapled to the Bottom of Delta, being furloughed out of seniority, and start flying the Brasilia's out of Orlando...

On a serious note, I'm gonna miss Betty and the Brasilia, she's been a moody but forgiveful babe..

 

[boiler]

Hey all...got the official letter today regarding no more new hire classes for six months to one year. It says they are retiring seven EMB-120s by the end of February and an unknown number will continue to be removed from Atlanta throughout spring. Obviously these pilots will be transitioning into the new CRJ spots. This actually sounds very similar to what Comair went through this past summer/fall. From what I can remember, Comair didn't have any new hire classes for 5-6 months (correct me if I'm wrong) as all their Brazilia pilots transitioned to the CRJ. So, can anyone who knows answer these questions...how many Brazilias did Comair have when they decided to retire all of them, and how many Brazilias does ASA have in Atlanta? I have heard that ASA isn't retiring the Dallas based Brazilias yet, so I'm assuming only the ATL crews will have to transition for now.

Being the optimist, there are two things us "poolies" need to remember. First, as the letter says "this forecast is subject to change", and second, once the Comair Brazilia pilots all transitioned to the CRJ, lots of newhire classes started back up. So here's hoping for a good announcement soon so that forecast changes. But if not, six months isn't that long to wait for a great job.