NJA TA in principal reached!!!

[NJA bound]

Give the Teamsters a call

 

[SkyGlider3]

Amen !!!

 

[SkyGlider3]

I consider it a Cadillac plan when I pay a mere $30 copy whether to my Primarynor a Specialist . When compared to others who pay $45 when on Medicare!

If you don't like your job , Leave it .

 

[NJA bound]

Cheap out on your pilot and see what you get..

 

[CA1900]

I consider it a Cadillac plan when I pay a mere $30 copy...

Whether you consider it a Cadillac plan is wholly irrelevant. That term has a specific meaning for tax purposes. It has absolutely nothing to do with copays, benefits, or coverages. It's defined as a plan with annual premiums of more than $10,200 for an individual, or $27,500 for a family.

Your assertion that Netjets "pays a penalty for OUR Cadillac plan" is incorrect. Nobody pays it yet, because that provision doesn't start until 2018. And when 2018 hits, it still won't be a Cadillac plan, and the company will pay no penalty for having it.

If you don't like your job , Leave it .

I do like my job. That doesn't mean I'll stop trying to make it better.

 

[Willy21]

Let me counter some of your talking points.

1-Free benefits
We still pay deductibles and co-pays so it's not free. We also have negotiated lower pay to not have to pay an employee contribution for insurance premiums.

2-live wherever we want, no commute
- yes they buy airline tickets for us and we travel to the aircraft on company time. On day one that doesn't bother me, on day last there are times I would love to catch the early flight home but due to the companies desire to save a buck I get home late.

3- hotel, airline, amex points
A good benefit but not nearly as good of a program as it was 10 years ago.

4- free crew meals (an airline guy will spend $200- $300 bucks on a 4 day trip)
Crew food is a benefit for the company not the pilot. It keeps me tied to the jet at the airport. If I had my choice I would rather have time inbetween flights to get something more fresh and use my per diem.

5- 4 weeks vacation
After 10 years you get your 4th week, almost 11 years if you were hired after the annual cutoff date. Years 1-4 is 2 weeks, 5-9 is 3 weeks.



there are worst jobs outhere

There are worse jobs out there, there are also better. You can't fault a group for trying to make a job better in their eyes.

 

[ExecJetCA]

8 Year SIC
2015 $77,174
2016 $88,308
2017 $92,765
2018 $97,297
2019 $102,772
2020 $109,669
2021 $115,778
2022 $122,826
2023 $126,511

63.9% Increase not including signing bonus.

First Year SIC
2015 $56,875
2016 $62,563
2017 $65,720
2018 $69,037
2019 $73,971
2020 $80,036
2021 $85,758
2022 $92,336
2023 $99,908

75.6% Increase not including signing bonus.

If you are having difficulty reading the pay charts correctly call the union for an explanation.

 

[imacdog]

Why are you acting like you're the first person to figure out that longevity increases stop once you hit the pay scale cap?

 

[BentOver]

8 Year SIC
2015 $77,174
2016 $88,308
2017 $92,765
2018 $97,297
2019 $102,772
2020 $109,669
2021 $115,778
2022 $122,826
2023 $126,511

63.9% Increase not including signing bonus.

First Year SIC
2015 $56,875
2016 $62,563
2017 $65,720
2018 $69,037
2019 $73,971
2020 $80,036
2021 $85,758
2022 $92,336
2023 $99,908

75.6% Increase not including signing bonus.

If you are having difficulty reading the pay charts correctly call the union for an explanation.

So someone In year eight now, after another 8 yrs.... Will possibly make $126,511 ( year 15 for them)
And a newhire will be at $99908 in year eight....

Hell the airline FO's make the money you posted in the first column by year 2-3 as a new hire.....

 

[acaTerry]

iMac are you one the guys that reads the numbers straight left to right? You one of incompetent ones that doesn't understand how to read it?

Coming from someone who can't write clearly. Just an observation.