NJA Pros and Cons

[crash41]

Same as all the other planes.

Well, obviously not the same as all the other rates. Airline Pilot central has current payscales and hawker 4000's aren't listed. I was just curious which current payscale it would fall under or if there would be a new one.

 

[Tref]

Well, obviously not the same as all the other rates. Airline Pilot central has current payscales and hawker 4000's aren't listed. I was just curious which current payscale it would fall under or if there would be a new one.

Looks like it would be a class 2 aircraft (MTOW of 23,000lbs or more and passenger cabin volume less than 850 cubic feet.) Same column on the paychart as the Hawker 800. You can check out the a/c classes under the definitions section (section 3) of the contract at www.ibt1108.org.

 

[crash41]

Looks like it would be a class 2 aircraft (MTOW of 23,000lbs or more and passenger cabin volume less than 850 cubic feet.) Same column on the paychart as the Hawker 800. You can check out the a/c classes under the definitions section (section 3) of the contract at www.ibt1108.org.

Thank you. That was a helpful post.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Today he arrived home minus his bag for the 2nd time in 3 months. Yes, airlining is part of the bad you have to take with the good.

Checked his bag? NJW, hasn't your better half learned by now that you check your bag only when the gate agent holds a gun to your head? At the very least, take it through security and gate check it. At least then, you've cut the odds of them losing the bag by 50%.

Of course, I suppose it's possible he drags one of those oversized, won't-fit-in-the-overhead body bags that some of our F/A's and even a few of our pilots love to schlep around.

Remember, one of the primary goals every tour is to pack lighter than the tour before. Thank your favorite deity that it's time again for shorts and flip-flops.....

 

[gunfyter]

I always check my bag. A very large percentage of us do.

 

[Diesel]

love checking my bag. Don't have to fight for overhead space.

 

[gutshotdraw]

You say po-tay-toe, I say po-tah-toe......

When I get home from 7 days out, no way I'm cooling my heels for 30 minutes or more waiting for the Samsonite gorilla to find the conveyor belt with my bag. And where I live, 30 minutes is a good day.

 

[NJA Capt]

I always check my bag. A very large percentage of us do.

I wouldn't say large, and definitely the minority. I have only seen one person in the last 6 months check his bag. To each his own.

 

[acaTerry]

PROS:
1. Trips start and finish at base / home (depending on your situation).
2. Everyone is typed. None of that 24 y/o "I'm a captain" krap. On the same side, none of that minimally trained 350 hr FO krap.
3. People you fly own the plane. No barefoot, smelly, hairy backed cro-magnons as passengers.
4. Free food.
5. Good hotels.
6. Haven't seen any orange DMI stickers....
7. Decent pay, good time off, and sick time. Oh yeah, 100% paid medical, dental and vision.
8. Variety of flying.

CONS:
1. SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
2. You do all the work, and the line guy gets the tips...
3. People with dogs or spoiled kids (and this from someone who loves kids).
4. I tried, but can't think of it.

Sure beats the airlines!

 

[Ultra Grump]

CONS:
1. SOUTHWEST AIRLINES

I second that!!

 

[gunfyter]

I like SWA....

 

[Ultra Grump]

We're talking about flying on them, not flying for them.

 

[Going2Baja]

Would someone pplease post this list of 24 meals that no one want to order from? Might be interesting for those of us that can't wait to get our hands on the left over catering.

Baja.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

My husband also enjoys the variety and greater pax interaction frac flying offers.

I always find it fascinating how some pilots feel it so important to yuk it up with the owners. These people could care less about you, your kids, much less the weather in Aspen. I watch their faces every now and then when the other pilot is talking to them; it’s the deer in the headlights look… What they want to say (and sometimes do) is “shut-up and drive the limo James.”

They get a smile and “hello” as I pass through the cabin, I love my job but very few people who sit in the back impress me.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Right there with ya Big B. Unless it's my former boss in the back or they start up the conversation with me, it's "Good morning. Flight time today is x, the weather is y. If there's anything we can do for you, let us know." Then it's cabin door closed and forward lav city to wherever.