NJA new TA... What will you really make?

[Majik]

Biggest moronic statement I have seen on here yet. There are many, many of your owners who ARE susceptible to a significant downturn in the world wide econony. Many Ultra owners who fly for business, for example, and will throttle way back on fractional flying if business needs dictate. To say that this demographic is immune from the world economy, fuel prices, etc is ignorant.
Sounds like UAL and DAL union leaders in 2001.

It might seem "moronic" if you didn't understand the difference between fractional ownership and airline revenue flying. Whether a person owns a share or is purchasing blocks of time from Marquis (who owns the shares), the aircraft is owned and the monthly management fee is paid. It would actually save a fractional company money if the owners didn't use their flight hours. Management fees still get paid but the fractional company no longer has the cost of repositioning fees and many other expenses associated with actually operating the aircraft.
Now those owners could sell their share to someone else but they can't just quit the program unless they file for bankruptcy. Now if the richest people in the world are filing bankruptcy, imagine the state of the airline industry and the impact on the common man by the time that happens. Still seem moronic?

What you might see is no new growth in sales but that's about it.

 

[Usual Suspect]

I've made 21% over my base in overtime, extended days and holidays. Only volunteered once for an extended day. The rest were after midnights when their scheduled 13+55 hour day to get me home didn't work. The 21% isn't counting grievance money or supplemental duty position pay. Kind of a weird year for me. 10% is more normal.

 

[hydrarkt]

Now that the IBB has passed... as an 8 year Cpt, with IOE pay, I will work 4 months on the 18 day schedule (my choice), and the rest on the 7 and 7 schedule. My BASE pay will be about $128,000. My extended day/vacation day pay is $916.00. With per diem and extras, I figure that I'll easily make $140,000. This does NOT include the 401k match of $7750. It does NOT include the savings generated from crewfood which I figure to be about $3000-$3500. It also does NOT include the savings from free health, dental and vision insurance. I also get three 21 day vacations a year which will increase to four 21 day vacations in 2 years. So the entire package is easily worth $150,000. For this, I will work about 165 days next year.

 

[gunfyter]

I will work 4 months on the 18 day schedule (my choice), and the rest on the 7 and 7 schedule.

Thats my plan too. Probably June-Sep every year. I may try the FLEX instead of 7&7

 

[ACL65PILOT]

how many guys are leaving there to go to the majors?

 

[gutshotdraw]

Not many. Usually very young guys who live in or near base cities.

 

[Guitar Guy]

how many guys are leaving there to go to the majors?

I'd rather agree with gutshotdraw. I've been at NJA for a little over three years and I'm hardly moving up in seniority over the past few months.

 

[Buddro]

how many guys are leaving there to go to the majors?

Very, very few left between the 05 contract and now, I think that number will be less than 10/year with the new contract. You thinking of leaving Delta already?

 

[gutshotdraw]

how many guys are leaving there to go to the majors?

I was also going to say that every time somebody does leave NJA or NJI for an airline the collective IQ of our company improves but it is Christmas....:bomb:

 

[CA1900]

I was also going to say that every time somebody does leave NJA or NJI for an airline the collective IQ of our company improves but it is Christmas....:bomb:

How much did it go up for the ones who quit for Skybus?

 

[Freight Dog]

I wonder how long the upgrade time will take nowadays since there'll be virtually no turnover. I know NJA has some aircraft orders, but.... the question is how long will it take realistically to upgrade there considering no mandatory retirement age, good money, and good QOL.

 

[FLYLOW22]

how many guys are leaving there to go to the majors?

I've heard of a few that need to fly the big iron to justify one thing or the other in their lives. More power to them. What ever is a priority in life I guess.

I have mine, they have theirs, we all have ours.

Most guys at the "majors" have found there way here over the last 5 years. Opposite trend.

IMHO.

This industry should have enough choices for everyone.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Manufacturing and training bottlenecks...

I wonder how long the upgrade time will take nowadays since there'll be virtually no turnover. I know NJA has some aircraft orders, but.... the question is how long will it take realistically to upgrade there considering no mandatory retirement age, good money, and good QOL.

We are scheduled for 60+ NET airplanes and 80+ GROSS airframes next year alone.

I think I saw over 250+ upgrades next year with the limiting factor being aircraft produced ASAP, pilots being hired and TRAINIED (sim time is the choke point).

Hiring should yield 300-350 newhires.

 

[Pugnacious G]

Final Pay check 2007

Holiday, OT, Extended Days amounted to 11% override on my pay. Disclaimer: I did not extend in 2007.

 

[Beechjet]

Who cares what the upgrade time is! It is still quicker that the majors since the 65 rule was passed and over the next 20 years I will make more.