NJA LOA on changing Domiciles reached for newhires!!

[notaNJApilot]

The question was posted on page 1 of the three page thread located on our union message board, I paraphrase: "for a post CBA pilot to bid for the first available upgrade he or she might be forced to transfer to a different domicile or forgo the first available upgrade opportunity?" If you look further down the same thread, you will see how our union president explains that this will not be the case.

So what is the answer?
I've read through the LOA for the first of many times, and I don't quite understand it. Is the trick to use the "domicle lock wavier"? It seems as if with this LOA, a junior pilot will get a Captain award over a more senior pilot as long as the junior pilot is willing to move to the domicle associated with that Captain award.

 

[tk855]

So what is the answer?
I've read through the LOA for the first of many times, and I don't quite understand it. Is the trick to use the "domicle lock wavier"? It seems as if with this LOA, a junior pilot will get a Captain award over a more senior pilot as long as the junior pilot is willing to move to the domicle associated with that Captain award.

I am still waiting for "official" clarification on the subject, but our union President makes it quite clear on the union board that this is not the case, that a pilot will have to switch domiciles in order to take the first available upgrade opportunity. The captain vacancy bids that are posted now do not specify an aircraft and domicile, and as I understand it, neither will they in the future. I believe that the LOA will allow domiciled pilots to 1) change domiciles as their seniority will allow, or 2) upgrade to captain and switch domiciles if their seniority will allow it. It definitely is not worded the best, so I am just going off of the limited information B.O. has posted and waiting to hear back from my P2P rep.

 

[notaNJApilot]

The examples in the LOA led me to believe that postings will be made with Aircraft, rank, and domicile. I can't imagine this LOA forcing a pilot to move in order to receive an upgrade, but it seems like the pilot might have to wait longer for that upgrade to happen in his current domicile, unless he uses the domicile lock wavier...what else would the wavier be used for?

 

[tk855]

I don't know for sure, you bring up a good point with the domicile lock waiver. Like I said, I don't understand this LOA completely and I am waiting for answers also. I interpreted Olson's post on the union board in a way that you would not have to change domiciles in order to take the first available upgrade.

 

[CastofThousands]

1) A pilot may stay in their initially assigned new hire domicile and upgrade at the first opportunity. The pilot will be awarded the most preferred aircraft their seniority will hold based on their preferred standing bid - fist, second, third, etc.

2) A pilot may transition to a new domicile when an opening at a more preferred domicile is offered in the pilots current fleet and seat.

3) A pilot may "swap" domiciles with any pilot in the same fleet and seat at anytime.

No pilots will incur a restriction on upgrade opportunities based on a domicile assignment whether it be their initial new hire domicile or a domicile a pilot transitions into. The aircraft bids remain system wide bids and will be awarded solely on seniority, regardless of domicile.

I hope this is helpful,

 

[tk855]

1) A pilot may stay in their initially assigned new hire domicile and upgrade at the first opportunity. The pilot will be awarded the most preferred aircraft their seniority will hold based on their preferred standing bid - fist, second, third, etc.

2) A pilot may transition to a new domicile when an opening at a more preferred domicile is offered in the pilots current fleet and seat.

3) A pilot may "swap" domiciles with any pilot in the same fleet and seat at anytime.

No pilots will incur a restriction on upgrade opportunities based on a domicile assignment whether it be their initial new hire domicile or a domicile a pilot transitions into. The aircraft bids remain system wide bids and will be awarded solely on seniority, regardless of domicile.

I hope this is helpful,

I agree with this, this is how I interpreted the LOA from the beginning.