NJA B757 & 767 aircraft

[RTRHD]

Now sure, there are you cynics out there from ALPA that have been raped up and down because of your sh!!ty scope clauses that will say "scope doesn't mean anything." Well, I guess that's for lawyers and judges to decide if it comes to that.

Now that is a correct statement. And they will use case law from the ALPA cases. Opps

 

[xpdriver]

Ref EMJ.If they take over a corporate flt operation the pilots generally come with and fly the same a/c.B757 or C150.

Not really, That usually happen at NJI with the gulfstreams. Ejm hires pilots for the plane that are leased back from a company or person.And when those aircraft are gone so are the pilots. How do I know this, ask the 10 or so that had to start over at the bottom after the layoff from EJM. There is always adds looking for pilots with a type to come and fly a particular aircraft.

 

[Dassault]

If you don't think scope clauses work, you need to read a little more about all the issues the regional airlines are having trying to operate larger and larger RJ's without violating their mainline scope clauses.

 

[Ultra Grump]

If you don't think scope clauses work, you need to read a little more about all the issues the regional airlines are having trying to operate larger and larger RJ's without violating their mainline scope clauses.

That's exactly right. It's not the courts poking holes in the majors' scope clauses, it's the companies' and pilots' concessionary agreements doing that.

 

[imotis]

Here's a thought. NJ approaches an individual and says "Hey, how 'bout you getting a 757 and putting it on EJMs certificate. We'll charter it from you and make it worth your while." Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Not owned by any NJ entity, not flown by NJ pilots, yet doing what NJ needs it to do.
I'm sure some one will show the errors in my thinkin' and I'm too dumb to figger out all the legalees in the contract that I don't have access to anyway.

 

[Guitar Guy]

...I'm sure some one will show the errors in my thinkin' and I'm too dumb to figger out all the legalees in the contract that I don't have access to anyway.

If you want to view the contract, go to http://www.ibt1108.org/, click on "NetJets Pilots", then "Info for New Hires" and then select "Contract". It's all there for the viewing by any interested party and no password is required.

 

[imotis]

OK, thanks. I'll still probably be overwhelmed and cornfused with the legal-speak though.

 

[Guitar Guy]

OK, thanks. I'll still probably be overwhelmed and cornfused with the legal-speak though.

No problem and good luck if you decide to try to wade through verbiage containted therein with regards to scope.

 

[Publishers]

There are a bunch of aircraft on EJM certificate that are owned and crewed by others. A different level certificate is required for 757 and 767.

 

[Fozzy]

There are a bunch of aircraft on EJM certificate that are owned and crewed by others.

Pub,
You are a idiot. What do you thing EJM does?