NJ Training Question

[jtf]

Can anyone confirm that the company must give the pilot 3 days notice while the pilot is a newhire waiting for aircraft training (finnished with the type training and basic indoc, but waiting around for the real airplane flight before getting released to IOE)? I plan on being far away and will need more than 10 hours to get back to CMH when they decide they are ready for me to finish training. I can't find anything in the contract that says how much notice you get while in training, but I have heard from a couple of guys that it is 3 days. I would like some confirmation before I wander too far away. Also, does anyone have any idea how backed up the Excel is currently?

 

[Twotter76]

I am in exactly the position you describe currently and when I when spoke with the director of training he said that it had been their practice to give people 3 days notice, though I do not believe the contract requires it. I do believe they can not give you a show time that is within 10 hours so you are probably safe, one of the more experienced aviators here may be able to answer that part. Not sure about the Excel - im in the Ultra and have been waiting about a month so far and they havent even made it to my class yet. Call the training department and ask how long the wait has been running for your airplane, they were very helpful when I called them.

 

[Going2Baja]

I love it when I hear about paid at home vacations!! Being serious, I'm assuming you guys have done indoc and are waiting for systems. While you wait for this you can be at home correct?

BAja.

 

[Twotter76]

No we have done indoc and systems and our Flightsafety type ratings in our particular aircraft already. However once you finish that training you report to CMH for more company aircraft-specific training and its also where you fly the aircraft for the first time. After that then you do IOE and then you are released to the line. Its a lengthy process. Yes, the paid vacation is nice and you can be where ever you want but after a month i'm starting to get bored - I would just as soon go to work at this point. Wish I still had my jumpseat bennies.

 

[Going2Baja]

Twotter - are you just sitting in CMH or are you at home? Do they airline you home between training events? If you wouldn't mind would you please PM or post how your training went as far as when you went home and for how long?

Thanks, Baja.

 

[Diesel]

He's probably sitting at home.

2 weeks indoc
probably a week or 2 off for before FSI. Sometimes right into fsi.
week off home
airline to cmh for a couple of days where you'll wait for a plane and do some nj stuff
airline home when no plane becomes avail
home for a couple of days
airline back to cmh and probably get the flight training done
airline home and sit from a week to a month. A buddy of mine sat for 6 months before they caught up with him.
Start IOE (takes about 2-3 tours)
Probably miss another tour of work due to paperwork being filed
on the line

 

[Twotter76]

Diesel has it exactly right except in my case it was a two week break before FSI and i'm going on a month wait for company training. Who knows how long i'll have to wait for IOE...

 

[CA1900]

And if I understand it correctly, all this waiting is done under the Reserve schedule, therefore higher pay rate, correct?

 

[ozpilot]

Correct - while you are in training you are paid at the reserve rate.

 

[Diesel]

Don't expect the timeline to get faster. If anything the time from end of flight training to ioe is just going to take longer.

Enjoy the time at home.