NJ schedule

[Guitar Guy]

Do you start at home base often?

To perhaps help clarify a little more for you, your tours will always start and end at your crew base. Whether or not you actually fly a QS tail out of or back to your crew base is another question that depends on the fleet, your crew base, and the whims of scheduling.

However, all movement from and back to your crew base takes place during your duty time. For example, if your crew base is LAX, you will always start and end your tour there. If the company would want you to fly a plane out of SMO, they'd first have you show at LAX, start your duty day and then catch a cab or other transportation to SMO. Similarly, if you were to fly a plane to VNY on your last day, the company would still have to allow time to get you back to LAX within the limit of your duty day.

 

[NJA Capt]

All of these questions are very subjective. Sorry to be vague, but the answer(s) to all of them is...It depends.

Are there tours or days of tours where you are not called out from home?

99.99% of the time you WILL be called out.

Do you airline mid tour very often?

Sometimes frequently, sometimes never.

Do you fly many trips on the first and last day of tours?

Usually yes. Sometimes both, sometimes neither.

Do you start at home base often?

90% No.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Don't get set on the 15-Day always working the busy days. The 15-Day is our opportunity to cover last minute changes in demand.

I expect that to happen. I also expected to have more show at homes or hotels to cover DNIFs, but I have not heard of that yet. You probably know better than I, as your perspective is more in tune with this part of the operation. I only know what I see first hand and what I hear on the road. Plus, 2 months is all any of us have seen. So everyone reading should take the 15 and 18 day at face value and nothing more.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Do you fly many trips on the first and last day of tours?

Do you start at home base often?

I think that both of these are dependent on your base and your fleet. If you choose TEB as your base, then I think you can count on flying on first and last days, as well as picking up your jet in TEB. If you live in Medford, OR, I would not expect very many starts from there, but you could airline a short distance and pick up a plane and fly a leg or two.

 

[CA1900]

Are there tours or days of tours where you are not called out from home?

To add to what others have said, you might get a few weeks of this while you're waiting to start IOE. Once you're released, it's pretty uncommon. In my short experience, it's only happened when I woke up, saw the whole day disappeared off my schedule on the Blackberry, and I called to ask what they wanted me to do. (The answer was, "Duty at home.")

Do you airline mid tour very often?

Like they said, it depends. If your plane breaks badly, you may airline to another one if it's available. But usually you'll end up keeping your plane for the week.

Do you fly many trips on the first and last day of tours?

I'd say about 2/3 of my recent tours have had me flying a leg on the first last day, in addition to the airline flight.

Do you start at home base often?

Pretty rare for me to do anything but airline from my home base. A couple of times, I have picked up or dropped off planes here on my first/last day, but there's a Citation Service Center here, which adds to that likelihood.

 

[learflyer]

Sorry guys, I've looked and looked. What is an example of the 18 day schedule again? Is it 6/4, 7/3 etc? Is there a max/min number of days off? Thanks.

 

[CA1900]

The 18-day can be anything, subject to a few limitations:

Tours a maximum of 7 days long, except one 8-day tour during each four-month bid period. Minimum 3 days off after any tour; 4 days of after a 7-day tour; 5 days off after an 8-day tour.

That's it. You can submit preferences (such as requested days off or preferred tour lengths [long or short]), but they're not guaranteed. Other than that, it's built up however scheduling needs to meet forecast demand.

My current month, for example, is 4-on (finishing a 7 day tour that began last month), 4 off, 7 on, 5 off, 7 on, 5 off (including first two days of next month).

 

[Mach92]

Sorry guys, I've looked and looked. What is an example of the 18 day schedule again? Is it 6/4, 7/3 etc? Is there a max/min number of days off? Thanks.

It's all over the map really. Depends if you have training or not that month. I only have one 7 day tour in MAY the rest training. April was 5 on 3 off 6 on 4 off 6 on 5 off. Some guys I fly with have 4 on 3 off all month. Off being Fri Sat Sun sign me up for that in the fall.

 

[learflyer]

Thanks fellas.

 

[bmxandjets]

It's all over the map really. Depends if you have training or not that month. I only have one 7 day tour in MAY the rest training. April was 5 on 3 off 6 on 4 off 6 on 5 off. Some guys I fly with have 4 on 3 off all month. Off being Fri Sat Sun sign me up for that in the fall.

what fleet are you on? or, what fleet are you buds on that have been doing the 4 on 3 off? thanks-

 

[RideandDrive]

I'm doing 4 on 3 off in the XL for May. Every weekend off. Most guys want more time off between tours but I prefer the 4 day tours.

 

[pilot772]

April: 3 off 7 on, 4 off 4 on, 3 off 6 on, 3 off. (17 days of work)
May: 8 on 5 off, 5 on 3 off, 5 on 5 off (18 days) that being said in may the one and only day that I bid for off fell right in the middle of my 8 day on.

oh yeah I'm on the Ultra

 

[bmxandjets]

thanks for info on the schedules

 

[Mach92]

what fleet are you on? or, what fleet are you buds on that have been doing the 4 on 3 off? thanks-

400 HEAVY XP

 

[IDEtoNJA]

400 HEAVY XP

Mach,

It is heavy! Especially with you on board!

IDEtoNJA