NJ future

[rubberducky]

So let me get this straight, CS is going to take half of NJs owners, but they wont but the CX and they dont have anything bigger than a C680. So tell me brainsurgeon what are they going to fly them on since they wont buy outside of Cessna???

 

[acaTerry]

Its too late...this has become the regionals board....

 

[Guitar rocker]

I heard CS plans on serving at least half of NJ owners by 2012...So, their might be some down sizing in NJ future. You know, theirs always a way for a good attorney to get around scope clauses. As a former airline employee, I know first hand.

Hey fractrash, you already used this on a previous thread and it's getting old. Now then, CS has to grow in order to get half of our owners right??? Then perhaps you can answer why it is that CS cancelled several of their citation orders this spring/summer and then cancelled 6 of their remaining orders which were supposed to be delivered to you guys in cessnas last quarter of 05??? You guys and your comparing your customer service to that of ours blows me away. It truly makes me laugh. Anyway, sit down with your other winners (rocky and bogart) and tell us all why you are cancelling so many orders.

 

[Going2Baja]

Trash - you are your own namesake!

I am of firm belief that Trash isn't who he says he is. 8000tt - doubt it. I'm guessing a foreign aviation student who doesn't like Americans, who is here just to get his licenses and go back to where ever he came from. No adult spends the time to hit the shift key for each and every word. And why is this guy so bent on flaming this board? Three different posts in the fract. section - just doesn't make sense. If we ignore him - he will go away.

 

[FRACTRASH]

That's it, you figured me out.

 

[Some guy]

NJ is expected to add 40+ airplanes this year.

I thoughT thE numbeR waS morE thaN doublE thaT. I'lL havE tO checK thE numberS agaiN nexT timE I gO iN.

sG

 

[JustInfo]

Number posted in HPN last week showed net change of +53 airplanes for 2006. Losing some VII's and Hawkersaurus. Guess CS must be getting maybe 60 or so new planes to shoot for the 50% by 2012 then???

 

[Guitar rocker]

Number posted in HPN last week showed net change of +53 airplanes for 2006. Losing some VII's and Hawkersaurus. Guess CS must be getting maybe 60 or so new planes to shoot for the 50% by 2012 then???

Their orders are down. Plus they are cancelling orders as well.

 

[netjetwife]

I guess with the new contract at NetJets, this raises the bar for everyone. Perhaps, places like Flops and Flexjet will have to step up to the plate to compete.

Well compensated and well treated pilots provide a better product, what a concept?!? Let's have everyone on the same playing field competing and maybe, we as professional pilots will be appropriately compensated for what we do regardless of where we work in the fractional world.

I couldn't have said it better myself. . Of course, I have been saying that, but there are some here who don't think a wife should be allowed to comment. So thanks for your post, Jetfo. Perhaps it will succeed, where I cannot,to open minds and raise awareness to the possibilities that exist if all of the fractional pilots will work together with a sense of community for the good of all. Teamwork and fellowship- - what a concept!

 

[RNObased]

You guys need to let Fractrash or whatever his name is have his little fantasy. My guess is he got too far into the company kool-aid one night and hasn't come down yet.

It is ok fractrash, there is help, people care about you. Put the cup of kool-aid down and detox for around 3-4 weeks, and then we can have an intelligent little chat.

 

[squonk]

I'm sure NJA lost a percentage of owners last year and they ended up at CS. The number of owners lost was around 60 in Aug-Sep time frame. Remember that was during the contentious contract negotiations. Therefore it would reason there would be a spike in defectors to another frax.
Now that things have settled down I imagine we would have a lower percentage of owners that feel the need to look into other options. Check back in a year and see if your prediction is valid. BTW, where did you get your info FRACTRASH? You never did state where it came from?

I hope CS does grow. Competition is a good thing. It keeps us in check and on our toes. One thing is for certain....nothing is for certain in the aviation industry.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Though, a very nice airplane, I don't think there's any corporate jet that can climb to FL350 in 1 minute. Don't get me wrong, very nice ride indeed.

 

[netjetwife]

Squonk, I'd like to point out that many owners were upset because they were bumped for Marquis card holders. Lacking a survey of those who left for other frac companies, we can't be sure of their reasons for doing so. Remembering the reports from the line, though, it seems that there were more owners disgruntled over their own contract issues with the company than there were worries/complaints about the labor dispute.

 

[squonk]

You are correct NJWife, I should have quantified that. The disgruntled owners that spoke frankly with me over the last year were indeed more upset with their own contract issues and in a couple of cases just outright being lied to from HQ.

I was never taken to task about our labor issue directly.

 

[netjetwife]

Thanks for the clarification, Squonk. It makes me look like I know what I'm talking about. Imagine that! An informed, observant wife with an interest in issues facing the pilots in the industry her husband works in.

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