NJ Bound??

[pdub20s]

Hey folks.. Im starting to think about my next career move aftern MESA. And NJ is one of my top choices. But the only thing worrying me about them is a commute and being a "servant" to Mr. Money Bags.

How easy is it to commute?(since there isnt any CASS or ETc. etc.)

Bases? (junior and senior)

Happy???

Any complaints?

 

[lookin4better]

hey P,

I dont work there but I understand after this IBB there will be over 100 ( guess ) bases. So maybe you wont have to commute....I am thinking about it too.....the new pay scale is good as any legacy and that is base pay and not to mention the QOL is great .......and a good thing is fuel can go up and the cost will be passed on to the customers, unlike legacies where the cose gets passed on to the employee.

 

[pdub20s]

hey P,

.......and a good thing is fuel can go up and the cost will be passed on to the customers, unlike legacies where the cose gets passed on to the employee.

I hear ya!!!

 

[Jack Mehoff]

I made the jump from Mesa to NJA in March. I just moved to CMH. It was one of the best decisions I made. If the IBB passes then you shouldn't have a problem finding a crewbase near you. However with the Pay increase and new Basing system its going to be very hard to get on here. So if you are thinking you want to work here just put in an app asap. (make sure you do meet the mins there is no exceptions)

 

[fischman]

Hey folks.. Im starting to think about my next career move aftern MESA. And NJ is one of my top choices. But the only thing worrying me about them is a commute and being a "servant" to Mr. Money Bags.

How easy is it to commute?(since there isnt any CASS or ETc. etc.)

Bases? (junior and senior)

Happy???

Any complaints?

Since NJA doesn't have any jumpseat agreements, commuting is easy, but expensive. The easy part is that you don't have to worry about getting on the plane because you bought the ticket, but the bad part is there are many of our guys that spend anywhere from $300 to $500 a month in airline tickets.

Basing isn't like at Mesa. You live where you want, just have to get to your crew base by your start time on day 1.

Happy? Yup.

Complaints? Too many Mesa pukes. (JUST KIDDING!!!)

Hope this helps.

 

[acaTerry]

Leave the iPod at home...

...but don't worry about "moneypants". Most of the owners are great and being a "servant" is not the way to look at it. Just treat them with courteousy and keep in mind that they paid a LOT of money for our SERVICE, so give 'em just that; great service, not servitude. Nobody expects you to lick shoes, just provide excellent service.
Nothing you experience here will be worse than what that sunnofabitchin' JO does to you guys.
Insofar as commuting goes, crew bases after IBB should make it easy. If not, a short commute is worth it (easy for me to say, a pre-rat guy!). I love this place and though it's a lot more work than airline flying, I'd quit flying before going back to the airlines.

 

[captain dad]

I agree with fisch. IF the IBB passes there will be 100 bases to choose from. IF not, it is the same old five for the next 2 years plus. Buy tickets or drive is the only solid way.

Dealing with the rich and famous - Get used to it. They're just like everyone else, most good and easy going, they just have a lot of money.

Happy - This is the last stop on my career if I can help it and I'm not even 40. I don't ever want to go back to the airlines. Yes, I am very happy.

Complaints - Dealing with other pilots that complain just to hear themselves complain. There is little if anything to complain about at this job. That and Mesa guys being bottom feeders. Just kidding. No I'm not. No really, I'm not.

Good Luck:laugh:

 

[pdub20s]

I made the jump from Mesa to NJA in March. I just moved to CMH. It was one of the best decisions I made. If the IBB passes then you shouldn't have a problem finding a crewbase near you. However with the Pay increase and new Basing system its going to be very hard to get on here. So if you are thinking you want to work here just put in an app asap. (make sure you do meet the mins there is no exceptions)

why would it be very hard?... i have about 3 more years until i head to NJ. gotta build the time along with the 1000hours PIC tubine. I know that its not required. but its something i want...

 

[CRJFlyer]

why would it be very hard?... i have about 3 more years until i head to NJ. gotta build the time along with the 1000hours PIC tubine. I know that its not required. but its something i want...

Then stay at the exciting career that MESA has to offer. You can either "deal with Mr. Moneybags" or take it in tha a$$ from JO... good luck waiting 3 years. Your timing would be awesome.

I think he said it would be hard becasue at a starting pay higher than ALL the majors and more than most RJ Captains make after maybe 6-7 years there will be a huge pile of resumes and yours would be competing with alot of other guys with equal or more time. I have friends that are 7-8 year Comair Cpts. seriously thinking about applying.

 

[captain dad]

why would it be very hard?... i have about 3 more years until i head to NJ. gotta build the time along with the 1000hours PIC tubine. I know that its not required. but its something i want...

It is going to be harder to get on here if the IBB passes because everyone and their brother has already started to apply. So statistically speaking your odds are less the longer you wait or in the very least your "time to interview" will increase. Hiring will continue for years to come on orders alone. Add to that attrition of around 100+/- pilots per year. In short, seniority matters so the sooner the better.

I hope that helps.

 

[pdub20s]

well I'm kinda in between a rock and a hard place... don't have the ATP yet, nor the 2500hours. it will take around 2 1/2yr to get that.

 

[RNObased]

But the only thing worrying me about them is a commute and being a "servant" to Mr. Money Bags.

Now that is the attitude we are looking for, great customer service right around the corner. Not the correct way to look at it. Maybe you would be happier dealing with the stellar mangement where you work...

 

[captain dad]

Hey folks.. Im starting to think about my next career move aftern MESA. And NJ is one of my top choices. But the only thing worrying me about them is a commute and being a "servant" to Mr. Money Bags.

How easy is it to commute?(since there isnt any CASS or ETc. etc.)

Bases? (junior and senior)

Happy???

Any complaints?

You are not ready to think about your next career move. From what you have wrote, you have minimal time which means you have minimal experience. You need a good deal of both and an ATP before you can even apply. I think you are putting the cart before the horse a little my friend. I could understand if you want to move to a different regional..., anyway, good luck with Freedom.

 

[Semore Butts]

Yeah, servant to Mr. money bags, thats the ticket.

I was thinking more of Mrs Money bags! Yeah it sucks flying some of them!

That Hurley person. (Yeah baby)

Yes Mrs Spears, Right away.

I really enjoyed you in "Overboard" maam.

Would you care for a drink Mrs Agulara?

Is it warm enough Miss Jolene?

Or what about that Lear 60 full of baseball players wives I flew to Long Island? (Lord please let this jet crash on a remote Island offshore)

Or, actually the most beautiful and friendly girl I think I've ever met (my wife of course! No this other one) MAn what an angel! I was so envious of the guy she was with. They parked us at "5 points", We asked if she needed a ride to the FBO, she said no, her brother was beinging the car around (fantsay still lives!!!)

Don't worry about Mr. Money bags. How much interaction do you have with a cab driver or a van driver from the hotel when you travel? (Actually, I talk to them all the time) The only difference between them and you is they weren't afraid to take a chance.

Either way, You had probably stay with the cattle and leave the actresses to us if you cannot interact well with other human beings without being intimidated.

 

[gunfyter]

What?

You don't wanna be a BellBoy with Wings?

 

[Guitar Guy]

...being a "servant" to Mr. Money Bags.

Like in other areas of life, there are people that we fly who are truly wonderful and those that are what you might call "high maintenance". However, the vast majority of the folks I've met have been terrific and usually enjoy chatting before the flight. I've even had a so-called "Mr. Moneybags" offer to let us stay with them if the company couldn't find us hotel rooms. That's pretty darn thoughtful.

How easy is it to commute?(since there isnt any CASS or ETc. etc.)

The commute is what you make it: you are on the hook to be at the assigned show location at the assigned show time on day one of your tour so you can live as close or as far from your domicile/crew base as you choose. If IBB goes through (I think it will), a new-hire would have 100 airports in the lower 48 to pick from as his/her crew base instead of being stuck at one of the current five dumb-a-ciles.

Bases? (junior and senior)

Partially answered above. Currently the company allows you to select the dumb-a-cile that you want prior to interview and you'll get that city as your base. Moving around currently in the 5 dumb-a-cile system is difficult. However, if IBB goes through, you'll pick ANY of the 100 cities you want and you can move between them with a 30-day notice to the company - no bidding, no junior/senior airline silliness.

Happy???

Any complaints?

I'm quite happy at NJA. When I started flying professionally, a major/legacy 121 carrier was my goal. However, now that I'm at NJA, I hope that this is my career. I like the flying and variety so much more than what I did at a regional. And I like interacting with our passengers - nothing like chatting with interesting people before or after a flight. We keep our hotel points and airline miles, so that's a big plus.

Complaints? Maybe the crew food system, but even so, it's much better than what most airline crews face. About the only other common complaint I hear from my co-workers is that airlining stinks: it's probably the worst part of the job. Other than that, it's really a very good job.

 

[CA1900]

Like in other areas of life, there are people that we fly who are truly wonderful and those that are what you might call "high maintenance". However, the vast majority of the folks I've met have been terrific...

That's been my experience as well. Just yesterday, as one of our passengers came up to get a cup of coffee, she asked if he could get me anything. Nice.


Oh, and for those who are concerned about servicing lavatories, here's a picture I took of one of best tools to do the job right:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9669/50578801mb0.jpg

Complaints? Maybe the crew food system, but even so, it's much better than what most airline crews face.

Yep. It was good weeks and bad weeks, but overall, I'm pretty happy with the crew food system now that we've added the regional menus. Scallops in MDW, crabcakes in PHL, a Cuban sandwich for lunch yesterday... it's pretty good. It sure beats anything from The Great *$@(ing Bagel in CLE all the time. uke:

About the only other common complaint I hear from my co-workers is that airlining stinks: it's probably the worst part of the job. Other than that, it's really a very good job.

Yep.

I hear you on the airlining... I acutally do fine with it most days, but I damn near reached my breaking point recently on a JetBlue flight. It started with using the e-ticket machine to check my bag, and then getting ignored for 10 minutes. When I finally caught one of the clerks, she said, "You have to wait in the big line, there's only two of us." (Uhhh, no, I already waited in this one; where's my bag tag?) Then a lovely hour standing in a boarding area with 35 seats for a plane that holds 150. I should have ordered a wheelchair.

 

[Outta Here]

2 and a half years to make the required mins here. How much time do you have. I know when I was at a regional I was getting 800+ without picking up extra trips. Thats the scarry thing about the regionals these days guys with 300 hours getting hired and I have to be in the back going to work.

 

[lookin4better]

Seriously......that is a truly scarey thought!!!

 

[CRJFlyer]

I hear ya.... Rode on GOJETS and MESA through Dulles this week.... the thought did cross my mind that I probablly had more RJ experience than the combined crew..And thats not sayin a whole heckuva lot.....But to their credit the ride/landing /service was on par with every other airline I've ridden on... And we were early to boot...