NJ April 16th Indoc

[notaNJApilot]

PTT doesn't arrange travel for new hires anyway.
but, there is absolutely no way you will be airlined to training from anywhere other than your domicile. that is a huge precedent that no one is willing to set.
*edit*maybe not "absolutely no way"

13.9 Start of Tour
Pursuant to Section 13.1(f) and 13.2(a), the Company is not obligated to allow
crewmembers to use airports other than those listed in this Section to begin any duty
tour, including training tours.

 

[CA1900]

notaNJApilot, travel from home (not domicile) is exactly what they did for my indoc class a few months ago. We were told (and got a letter to the effect) that for our very first training event (indoc for most of us), we would get a ticket from home. After that, all travel would be from the domicile.

Here's one way to look at it: Technically they can do that, because we aren't employees on the travel day -- employment doesn't start until the first day of the training event, and thus we aren't bound by the contract until then. At least that's how I read it.

 

[imacdog]

Speaking of training, here's a question for those recently finishing training and going onto IOE. During your wait period before your IOE/Reserve schedule, did the company give you a couple days notice before putting you on the schedule, or is it a situation where they call you out of the blue saying you are starting your IOE schedule the next day?

 

[CA1900]

Can't speak for anyone else, but I just got surprised by it one day. Expecting the usual hang-out-at-home briefing, I got briefed for an airline flight to join up with the IOE captain. (This was on the 7/7 schedule, not the reserve you asked about, but I'd imagine it'll be a surprise either way.)

Nice surprise, really -- much as I enjoyed the paid vacation, the cabin fever was starting to set in. It was good to go fly.

Now I'm ready for another vacation.

 

[notaNJApilot]

notaNJApilot, travel from home (not domicile) is exactly what they did for my indoc class a few months ago. We were told (and got a letter to the effect) that for our very first training event (indoc for most of us), we would get a ticket from home. After that, all travel would be from the domicile.

Here's one way to look at it: Technically they can do that, because we aren't employees on the travel day -- employment doesn't start until the first day of the training event, and thus we aren't bound by the contract until then. At least that's how I read it.

interesting. i guess it's true - you aren't under the CBA until you are employees. so hmm...just thinking out loud...if you get fired while on the road, does the company book your travel home?

 

[CA1900]

interesting. i guess it's true - you aren't under the CBA until you are employees. so hmm...just thinking out loud...if you get fired while on the road, does the company book your travel home?

Oh, man, how much would that stink! Getting your own taxi from BFE to BFI Int'l Airport, to buy your own ticket home. Ouch. But I almost guarantee you'd find a more economical way to get there than they would!

Of course, my previous employer (a commuter airline) did pretty much the same thing to me: When I called in sick in the middle of a trip, they said, "OK, we'll have somebody else finish the trip." When I inquired about how I was going to get home, the scheduler said, "you're on your own" and hung up on me. Nice, huh?

 

[captain dad]

Not always the case but most IOE will start on the start days of your fleet and last all week to optimize the IOE instructors time and get you done ASAP. So, when possible your IOE will start on one of the fleet start days for the 7/7 schedule.

 

[theskyking]

I was in class last October and there were many in my class that were airlined to and from indoc from their home airport not their domicile.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

I was in class last October and there were many in my class that were airlined to and from indoc from their home airport not their domicile.

That boils my blood since I was told I couldn't do that... Ended up driving from CT to PBI to catch my flight to CMH. I haven't heard of anyone winning a grievance from the Co because of this. I didn't press the issue because I wasn't even in class yet, I just asked if it was possible, LL said no, I said okay. End of conversation. I did meet the guys that drove from home to CMH, but it would be a longer drive from CMH to PBI as opposed to CT to PBI. Plus I got to visit "South of the Border!!" :nuts:

 

[flyipilot]

When I went to Indoc back in Sept/06, I drove to it and I live in Tucson,AZ. THey gave me no hassles but said they would not repay any gas or fees. They will buy you tickets to from your home to Indoc and back to home at the end. Then from that point on, you have to go thru your domicile. I knew we would hvae at least 2-3 weeks off after Indoc due to backups at the time and I told them this is why I chose to drive. No problem from them at all. Hope this helps.