Nine 74's for Cathay

[Mooseflyer]

Yet another question, I did a search for Cathay on these boards and it made it seem like getting based in the US, in any capacity was only after being at the company for several years.... Is this not true if you fly the freighters?

I'd be interested to hear the answer to this one too - thanks.

 

[Xfr8dog]

How do you apply? I scoured the website again and found no link to apply online and no address to send a resume....


thanks.

 

[CSY Mon]

So unions are allowed in Hong Kong these days...?

Good for the pilots, but is there any teeth behind?
Always wondered about them guys that got fired, (the 51, 49ers)
The rest of the CX oilots did not just set the parking brake and refuse to fly unless every one got re-hired, instead they issued the hireing ban.....? The CX pilots could fly, but nobody else...

They did not have the sacks to just put pressure on managment and get their fellow pilots back in the seat?

Talk to the TWAy guys about what has happened to them.

My favorite subject...What happened?
Did they get bought just before 9/11 when the massive furloughs started?

Back to CX.
Yup, great airline, flown them as pax many times, would have applied if I was younger and not burned out by long-hauls.

Still that 49 business makes ya wonder what will happen next....They going to fire another 50 or 60 guys just to set an example and to let the pilot group know who the real bosses are?

 

[Guam360]

ATR-DRIVR, what are you smokin or drinkin, the company kool-aid?? Delta???

you'll never see it, this guy is offering some great info, thanks all, and I was just in Hong Kong last week, it is a amazing operation, truly would be great to work for them.

cheers

 

[castle bravo]

Tony,
I'm with you. However, let's not forget that ALPA accepted CAL back while blessing their scabs as clean.

 

[Flying Illini]

How do you apply? I scoured the website again and found no link to apply online and no address to send a resume....


thanks.

Here ya go:

Application

To join our team, please e-mail [email protected] or send your application to:

Flight Crew Recruitment
Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd.
6/F, Flight Training Centre
Cathay Pacific City
10 Scenic Road
Lantau, Hong Kong

-found on: http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/careers/paths/0,,86808-107969-4,00.html

 

[Flying Illini]

Basically, two trips a month, just one in August. 7 day trips usually with about 18 days off a month.

This month I got home the 2nd. Reserve on 12th&14th, fly the 17th-21st, Reserve 27th&29th. All else off, so that's 20 days off potentially.

out of curiosity, with 18 days off a month, how many flight hours are you averaging a month? a year?

 

[amcnd]

What are the chances of gettin YVR after 3 years on the freight side in the US? And what is the pay you can expect in years 2-5?

 

[Guam360]

Tony,
I'm with you. However, let's not forget that ALPA accepted CAL back while blessing their scabs as clean.

sorry dude, ALPA accepting CAL, ALPA needed CAL along with FEDEX to support ALPA, why did American so no.

ALPA ran out on CAL, the gang were on strike and ALPA gave up on them, thus leaving the CAL pilot group without a union. Lorenzo was successful.

the majority of CAL voters for ALPA were CAL express.

anyway, back to Cathay Pacific, thanks for all the great and positive info.

 

[Cathay747400]

This has got to be the funniest posts I have read in a loong time. The ALPA supporters bashing another company. Hypocricy at its best. Man O' Man. This is why I no longer support or have anything to do with ALPA. We'll see what happens next? Yeah your right Delta boy we will see, your next, maybe what you a-holes did to the Panam guys will happen to you, bet you'd sing a different tune then. Man am I tired of this crap. Tried to post some helpful info for people looking for work and I get a bunch of jackasses chiming in. Piss off morons. There that is off my chest now.

Um let's see if I can remember all the questions. YVR is a pax bas on B744 and A340. You would paid in Canadian dollars there. At CX you can bid any base you want but right of abode and work rights will be up to you. Generally the Canadians are in Canada, Americanos in USA, etc... Pay goes up every year. 61308 to start 67308 2nd year, 75000+ 3rd year. If and when you got to pax fleet it about doubles. Captain on freight is paid same as F/o on pax fleet. But you can get a command in about 3 years on the freighter. We have 9 more coming so that may come down even more, some say two years. Lots going on. I don't know any 3 year 747 or even 10 year 747 captain's at any other major airline. Yes, there are 10 year 747-400 captain's on the pax fleet. 7-9 years on 777 and A330/340. Apply and good luck.

 

[typhoonpilot]

I don't know any 3 year 747 or even 10 year 747 captain's at any other major airline.

Upgraded in one year on the 777, but it is a lot less money than Cathay. Right place, right time, and right qualifications for once in my career. Couldn't bring myself to apply to Cathay during the ban, it just didn't seem right, but it is a better place than Emirates. Dragonair was also high on my list, but they only seem to like Antipodeans and Brits. Speaking Mandarin wasn't even enough to break that barrier.

TP

 

[center]

Cathay747400,

"Generally the Canadians are in Canada, Americanos in USA, etc..."

This statement is not exactly true, as many Canadian pilots are flying in Canada, AS WELL as the US. We just don't have that many Americans working for us. Right now I believe Americans account for about 1-2 percent of the pilot force.

This could change in the next while with the planned US freight expansion.


One more point, for those US based freight FO's, you will actually not be working for Cathay Pacific Airways, you will be working for USAB, or in Canada, Veta Ltd.. They are wholly owned subs of Cathay with differnet COS's. Which constantly change as much as ours do. Another point is we have a union, but in actuality, we are NOT a union airline. The union here is more of a club that has recreational get togethers, and hockey games. Membership is NOT required. Unions are not legal entities with any power in Hong Kong, China, and never will be.

In closing, I have been here now for well over a decade, and am quite content, I always have been, but this company is NOTHING like a North American airline. So do not expect it. It is not perfect, but is better than most. We have excellent medical, but I have never heard of dental for the USAB pilots, this must be a brand new perk.

 

[amcnd]

Thanks. My wife is canadian and she would love to move back to YVR. Is it the same payscale but converted into CAD dollars? Or is there a different payscale? Just lookin at what I would make as a 3-5 year YVR FO. And as a american what do they look for . TT/ PIC ect....

 

[TonyC]

If you are going to be critical of CX, be more critical of ALPA.

Where did I come off as being critical of CX?


I wore a yellow ribbon - - I displayed stickers - - I supported the pilots of the Hong Kong Pilots Association. I am deeply concerned about the fate of the 50 living 49ers - - disappointed, even.

I am disturbed by pilots who are so eager to torpedo the efforts of pilot groups to negotiate fair work rules.

I am disgusted by scabs.

Where was I critical of CX?

 

[TonyC]

sorry dude, ALPA accepting CAL, ALPA needed CAL along with FEDEX to support ALPA, why did American so no.

ALPA ran out on CAL, the gang were on strike and ALPA gave up on them, thus leaving the CAL pilot group without a union. Lorenzo was successful.

the majority of CAL voters for ALPA were CAL express.

anyway, back to Cathay Pacific, thanks for all the great and positive info.

I'm sorry, but I was unable to follow your syntax. I take it you are displeased with ALPA - - I can't figure out how you determined that FEDEX has some part in that displeasure.

Could you clarify, please?

 

[mar]

My parting shot

What's over? Did the 49ers get their jobs back? Tell their families it's over.

Sir, you may beat this dead horse until you turn blue for all I care.

It's over indeed.

Those pilots, in case you don't have a full grasp on the situation, were terminated legally per their contract and per Hong Kong law.

I'm not saying it's right. The sackings were in fact random but entirely legal in the eyes of Hong Kong law, the HKAOA, and the California court system that saw the appeal.

Their contract stipulated three month's pay if terminated and that's what they were payed satisfying all obligations per the contract.

I don't know how else to say it.

Legal termination + Illegal Strike = No Scab.

They will never see their jobs again unless and until CX management recants. And that's highly unlikely.

I say again. Move on. The 49ers have.

 

[Cathay747400]

Just for the record, I am posting very basic information on here about working for Cathay. There are a lot of details very different than most carriers. It would take for ever to explain all the details, besdes I don't think the company wants all that released. I agree with my counterpart there. Every place has issues but I think in the long run, after every thing CX has been through, it is going to still be the best place to be.

I never attacked FedEx at all. I just think it is inappropritae for an outsider who does not know all the details to be making comments about another company and particularly an ALPA member. That would be like me saying what happened to the Tigers guys, The Western Guys, The TWAY guys, The Ozark Guys, The Eastern Guys, the Panam guys, you get my drift. I was not here when the 49/51ers happened so I cannot comment. I am only here to provide insight for people looking for a decent somewhat stable airline. That is all.

I would really like the issue dropped as that is not the intent of this board nor my messages. Drudging up "OLD" wounds will not solve anything. Good day.

 

[mar]

An attempted hijack?

Sorry if I went off on a tangent there, bud.

I just don't appreciate certain insinuations about my character being made in public without a complete examination of all the facts.

I consider the matter "dropped".

 

[CSY Mon]

I consider the matter "dropped".

Well, Mr. Mar:


Did ya ever consider looking yerself in the mirror while applying for the job over at CX while the hireing ban was in effect and while these 51 guys were applying for un-employment?

Have read yer postings the last few months and meh think ya come across as a pretty level-headed guy...Payed yer dues and all that.

Why the rush to jump into somebody's labor / managment conflict?

Plenty of jobs out there if ya wanna relocate and fly long-haul, and plenty of respect for DC-6 drivers in Alaska...At least in my book.

(I flew DC-3s on the beaches in SE Alaska as well as SE tail-draggers on other beaches, been up there, done some of it, my hat off for the year around DC-6 folks.)

So, uh, why dig yer own grave by applying for a job that is red-hot in a negative sense, and could hurt yer resume in the long run?

Too close to being a scab meh think, althought the CX guys did not really have the balls to set the parking brake and paint a line in the sand....They kept on flying...The ultimate compromise I guess...

Not sure where ALPA came into all this, but as a card carrying member for a couple of different carriers, I can say 2 things:
The ALPA lawyers saved my bacon once!
Disappointed about the CAL scabs being "forgiven"..Screw 'em!

 

[Airbusdrvr]

hey 744 use both sides of the brush, when painting

Whilst the 747-400 is happy with his new airline, his views are very one-sided and he speaks from very little experience with his new found air carier.

CX is a great Company. I have been there 7 plus years and am very happy. but as for his 18 days off a month, Nice if you get it. I have had several months where I flew 1 scheduled trip others were all changed. Home on tuesday may mean home on Friday. No bidding of schedules you get what they give you.

No dental in the USA or any Base. there are 17 different pay scales all dependent on date of joining and base area where you are employed.

Commands in 2 years, ???? maybe providing you are assessed suitable by the command selection board, have an outstanding simulator and employment history, pass a command selection interview and your line checks are good.
Then if you check those boxes and jump through a few more hoops provided you have the seniority you will get an command course with a 40% pass rate !