Nice job, Delta Crew

[Ty Webb]

To the 717 crew with the dual generator failure going in to ATL yesterday during IMC and dodging thunderstorms - nice work. Glad it turned out OK. Would like to know if they found out what the hell caused a dual failure?

 

[Ex737Driver]

Isn't someone here supposed to say "SWA"?

 

[acaTerry]

Isn't someone here supposed to say "SWA"?

Dang that's a good one! Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Ty Webb]

Well, we did play a quick game of chicken with one of the CFR trucks on Foxtrot, but he was going SLOW.

 

[pilotyip]

APU gen working?

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

To the 717 crew with the dual generator failure going in to ATL yesterday during IMC and dodging thunderstorms - nice work. Glad it turned out OK. Would like to know if they found out what the hell caused a dual failure?

Apparently the captain was wearing cowboy boots.

 

[wood pecker]

I remember in training they said don't crank the APU or it could drain the battery and the response from the instructor was always fly with the APU running. (jokingly sort of)

 

[Remington]

Did he maintain the proper ATL speeds?

 

[wood pecker]

The ATL speed problem is because just about everywhere SW flies out west from what I have seen, it's check on with approach then immediately call the field in sight regardless if I see the dam thing then drop everything to do a base turn inside the FAF... touch down slam on the brakes to make first turn off then kill the APU once the brakes are set and roast everyone.

So when ATL says descend to 4,000 plan on short approach they are programmed to slow then drop the gear and turn inside the FAF when ATL really means 10 mile final. If I did the same thing for 20 years it would be hard to change maybe, too.
My last few ATL trips were perfect so I think the problem is fixed.

 

[Flyer1015]

To the 717 crew with the dual generator failure going in to ATL yesterday during IMC and dodging thunderstorms - nice work. Glad it turned out OK. Would like to know if they found out what the hell caused a dual failure?

Did someone leave the iPad behind the thrust levers, in front of the cut-off switches?

 

[pilotyip]

I remember in training they said don't crank the APU or it could drain the battery and the response from the instructor was always fly with the APU running. (jokingly sort of)

Our DC-9 COM says start APU if you loose one generator, so were both gens drop dead same time

 

[bafanguy]

I remember in training they said don't crank the APU or it could drain the battery and the response from the instructor was always fly with the APU running. (jokingly sort of)

If you're referring to the DC9/MD80(ish) family, there's dead bus sensing providing that, if both AC busses are lost with the ground shift in the flight mode, the battery is prevented from powering the APU starter. If cold soak doesn't get in the way, the APU will windmill start.

Took a quick look at the B717 manual to see if it has the same dead bus sensing but couldn't find it...got bored...gave up looking. My attention span is short these days.

However, it wouldn't surprise me to find the same dead bus sensing is provided on the 717. A good idea is usually a good idea over time.

And, yes, lose one GEN ? Start the APU.

 

[Junkflyer]

Lose one, start the ape. Lose both and the risk is that if the apu does not start, you've lost a lot of the remaining battery power. Its not in the qrh to start the apu.

 

[bafanguy]

You mean that in the 717 QRH the procedure doesn't call for starting the APU if one GEN is lost ?

 

[Junkflyer]

Lose one and you start it.

 

[Muskycat]

Lose two and start a thread.

 

[wood pecker]

I think it was a lawyer thing to protect Boeing if I remember. While in class someone asked why not to start APU after a dual gen failure. Instructor made a call and said that he was told an APU crank could deplete the rest of the batt so not to. That led to him saying that is BS just fly w the APU on all the time. Heck even the CRJ had an ADG (little air driven turbine would pop out).