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[Metro752]

No HD = No Watch.

 

[charlie2]

I loved it and I'm an eastinfection. But do they really think they will change our minds with this stuff? The west wants the nic with the same intensity that the east doesn't and that will never change no matter the outcome. It is all in the hands of judges and juries but keep making funny videos!

 

[Cowboy75]

I loved it and I'm an eastinfection. But do they really think they will change our minds with this stuff? The west wants the nic with the same intensity that the east doesn't and that will never change no matter the outcome. It is all in the hands of judges and juries but keep making funny videos!

Charlie, I think we have common ground.

A sense of humor. :beer:

 

[get2flyin]

I loved it and I'm an eastinfection. But do they really think they will change our minds with this stuff? The west wants the nic with the same intensity that the east doesn't and that will never change no matter the outcome. It is all in the hands of judges and juries but keep making funny videos!

You're my kind of guy....we can agree to disagree. If we ever fly together, the first round is on me regardless of who sits in what seat.

 

[MCDU]

JJ= John Jerk

By the way, good video. Science Fiction. Deals with things that are not reality. Kind of like the Nic award. You can not piss off 2/3 of the pilot group and let guys with 3 weeks on the property go ahead of 17 years. That is reality. Let just stay separate. Like Air France and KLM. Or Swiss and Lufthansa. That way no one loses. Right? Or is there something about Nic that is a windfall? There has to be something why the West wants this thing implemented so bad.



M

 

[St. Nic]

JJ= John Jerk

By the way, good video. Science Fiction. Deals with things that are not reality. Kind of like the Nic award. You can not piss off 2/3 of the pilot group and let guys with 3 weeks on the property go ahead of 17 years. That is reality. Let just stay separate. Like Air France and KLM. Or Swiss and Lufthansa. That way no one loses. Right? Or is there something about Nic that is a windfall? There has to be something why the West wants this thing implemented so bad.



M

Youre on to something... Ever wonder why the westies want something sooo bad?

And for all you westies that have littered this site, I am not JJ! I don't know a JJ except for JJ the jet plane- is that what you mean?

 

[Bringupthebird]

JJ= John Jerk
Or is there something about Nic that is a windfall? There has to be something why the West wants this thing implemented so bad.
M

Well you can't be much more separate than not working for USAirways, so your perspective is spot on.

You don't suppose that the west would like to get something for the 2% that is extorted monthly from them besides a signed copy of Sehams legal bill? Maybe they would like to see the process they participated in good faith, be fully implemented. Maybe they want to go beyond petty vindictiveness and actually run a serious union.

In short, maybe the west is just sick and tired of babysitting the toddlers out east and expect pilots to be rational and mature.

 

[Cowboy75]

Youre on to something... Ever wonder why the westies want something sooo bad?

And for all you westies that have littered this site, I am not JJ! I don't know a JJ except for JJ the jet plane- is that what you mean?

Nic,

Are we paying you to sit in the USAPA office all day and run the spin machine?

Where's that industry leading contract and that DOH list.

It's not on Parker's desk, I'll bet.

 

[Dizel8]

I thought it was great and am proud to see the AmWest pilots standing tall.

What's really funny, is that when I ask USAir pilots at my current "young" airline if the Nic is reasonable they say "absolutely not, DOH would be the right way", but then if I ask them if they think that would be reasonable if we were bought/merged, the most senior pilot being hired in 1999, they invariably say "absolutely not, there should a fair integration!"

 

[vetrider]

JLJ knows who he is.

 

[Cowboy75]

I thought it was great and am proud to see the AmWest pilots standing tall.

What's really funny, is that when I ask USAir pilots at my current "young" airline if the Nic is reasonable they say "absolutely not, DOH would be the right way", but then if I ask them if they think that would be reasonable if we were bought/merged, the most senior pilot being hired in 1999, they invariably say "absolutely not, there should a fair integration!"

That way of thinking put us in the situation we are in today. That's what you get when you have a group that looks down on the rest of the industry.

United had a near miss with them a few years ago. Same arrogant attitude of entitlement.

 

[Raoul Duke]

I love it! The Atty ad is perfect

 

[Cowboy75]

I love it! The Atty ad is perfect

JJ's lurking. Expect an irrational response soon.

 

[Captzaahlie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxaQFQC0MAY&feature=player_embedded#!


:laugh:

PS - Make sure you watch at least until you see the Attorney Commercial.......

Loved it, keep up the good work!

 

[Captzaahlie]

I loved it and I'm an eastinfection. But do they really think they will change our minds with this stuff? The west wants the nic with the same intensity that the east doesn't and that will never change no matter the outcome. It is all in the hands of judges and juries but keep making funny videos!

Actually I agree with the guy who wrote this....
(it's in Parkers hands and he chooses to ignore it!)

Both sides are entrenched in their positions, and the only authority that either side will listen to, to stop will be the court. The Ninth Circuit just told us that a court will not hear the case until we have a ratified contract.
Mr. Parker still after 5 years has refused to make a decision about what he will do with seniority. He wants the union to “make a deal”; there is no West to “make a deal” with. We cannot get to court until we have a contract; we cannot get a contract until Doug Parker, the architect of this disaster, decides whether he is going to use the Nicolau list as accepted in 2007 or negotiate with USAPA for something other than an arbitrated list.
The Ninth Circuit ruled that the Addington case was not ripe.
We will not have a ripe claim to find out which side is correct until we get a ratified contract.

We cannot get a ratified contract until Doug Parker decides what he is going to accept as a seniority list. Mr. Parker is waiting for the two pilot groups to decide what the seniority list will be. The two pilot groups cannot agree to a list because there are no longer two legal pilot groups. The court will have to decide which side is correct.
And so it goes the infinity loop. The only person that can get us out of this loop is the one person that put us all in the position and has refused to take the responsibility and make a decision. Doug Parker, CEO US Airways.


I think this was really well written and obviously Parker has to laughing his ass off at our two pilot groups because he is more than happy to continue paying our less than industry standard wages!