News Flash - Pinnacle Requests Type IV in August

[Rook]

Yeah I really wanted to divert to BRD but all the alcohol was already used up and the patio furniture was gone. (Never thought a senior XJ 146 CA would stoop that low.)

Night guys,
Rook

 

[xjjetdog]

I also agree with you that they did not have to divert to someplace in the middle of August just to find Type VI.

How much do you think a spraydown with Type VI ????? goes for these days? Although, with Type VI you can probably apply it in August and it will stay on the airplane till Groundhog Day.

 

[crjgearbiatch]

How much do you think a spraydown with Type VI ????? goes for these days? Although, with Type VI you can probably apply it in August and it will stay on the airplane till Groundhog Day.

Maybe Mesaba is approved for Type VI fluids, but I'm not aware of Type VI existing... don't see a holdover chart for it. I am most familiar with Type I and Type IV. However, I am impressed by the 6+ month holdover time of the Type VI fluid. Maybe Pinnacle should look into that...

If your post wasn't pure flamebait, it's quite possible that there is a logical reason for the divert, and maybe you didn't catch all of the details.

I don't believe that anyone diverting in August would consider the necessity of an alternate airport having deicing capability. However, I can see a situation where a CRJ might divert to avoid icing conditions. (i.e. window heat controller or wing anti ice system deferred, gear down ferry, etc..) Why don't you just stick to your 4 APU's and a Hairdryer... and we'll handle the Canadair.

Next time you ride in one of our airplanes, feel free to come up and read our MEL.

 

[xjjetdog]

Maybe Mesaba is approved for Type VI fluids, but I'm not aware of Type VI existing... don't see a holdover chart for it. I am most familiar with Type I and Type IV. However, I am impressed by the 6+ month holdover time of the Type VI fluid. Maybe Pinnacle should look into that...

If your post wasn't pure flamebait, it's quite possible that there is a logical reason for the divert, and maybe you didn't catch all of the details.

I don't believe that anyone diverting in August would consider the necessity of an alternate airport having deicing capability. However, I can see a situation where a CRJ might divert to avoid icing conditions. (i.e. window heat controller or wing anti ice system deferred, gear down ferry, etc..) Why don't you just stick to your 4 APU's and a Hairdryer... and we'll handle the Canadair.

Next time you ride in one of our airplanes, feel free to come up and read our MEL.

Maybe I should have spelled it out in my post, type SIX. That was the joke. You're right, my second post was flamebait. The original was a first hand account. But I'll cut you some slack, it was late and Roman numerals are compicated. I don't blame you, rather the Memphis pulic education system. Also, if anti-ice fluid is part of a MEL for a inop window heat controller/wing anti-ice system, then this thing really does belong in Canada..........ehhhh?

 

[TonyC]

I don't blame you, rather the Memphis pulic education system.

Hey, hey, HEY!

My diploma says Memphis on it!

Oh, wait... Memphis Public schools.... you said pulic... oh, never mind, different schools




.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

There is a sucker born every minute, and there are a lot of them that hang out on this board.

There is no requirement at PCL to divert only to stations that have type IV..ever. In fact a lot of the airports that we fly into don't even have type IV.

Becides the fact that the story is totally unreasonable, and no one else can confirm it, and it's been a while since a PCL bashing thread, this one is pure BS.

 

[NuGuy]

The violations in DCA were not solely belonging to Pinnacle. According to the FAA, these violations were happening frequently to every regional and major airline that flies into DCA. If you want to talk P56 violations, then you'll have to include everyone. I can assure you that we all can think for ourselves when needed.

Heyas guys,

I saw a bulletin on the wall about how anal retentive the feds are about the DC airspace. Word is that if you depart with the wrong transponder code (gee, I've never done that...), they will consider this a "deviation" and come after the crew.

FYI...

Nu

 

[Simon Says]

Yeah I really wanted to divert to BRD but all the alcohol was already used up and the patio furniture was gone. (Never thought a senior XJ 146 CA would stoop that low.)

Night guys,
Rook

hehehehe......That was a grand slam comeback....I usually don't chime in on 9E vs. XJ tennis match, but this come back was out of the park.....LOL

before you get flamed by my bretherens at Mesaba the Avro Captain event was a different situation in Grand Forks. The patio furniture was just the BRD event.

 

[405]

Hmmm...

Today on our way to GFK, we overhear a Pinnacle crew looking for a place to divert because of the weather in MSP. A requirement for their diversionary airport was if they had Type IV anti-ice fluid. They finally felt comfortable diverting all the way to GRB, because it was the only station that had Type IV in stock in August!!!! Someone in the Pinnacle training department needs to step and start teaching certain Pinnacle crews that Type IV fluid does not keep ice off the aircraft while enroute.

This is stupid.

9E had no diversions to GRB yesterday and have had no diversions to GRB within the last five days. We had one diversion yesterday. The only ARJ flight that I know of to GFK landed 2 hours and 45 minutes before that diversion flight originated in MSP.

 

[mike51135]

CELL CALL! you're an idiot!

Interesting, I didn't know that they installed a cellular telephone in the CRJ cockpit. I learn many things by reading this board...

Maybe Pinnacle had cell phones installed on all A/C so we could call up the hotel on overnights to make sure there are no drunk Mesaba pilots running around yelling, knocking on doors and throwing patio furniture. If I know ahead of time, I will be more alert and can duck when a flying patio chair comes flying towards me by a wasted Mesaba pilot.

 

[kmox29]

Jeez, do we know how to party or what!?! Anyone remember the crew in Iowa gettin naked in the hot tub and then running around the hotel shootin' off fire extinguishers? Good times man...good times.

We got a new hotel outta that one

 

[1.3XVso]

when each dispatcher is working 25 flights at a time, it is pretty hard to keep track of everything that is going on.

why can pinnacle pilots not think for themselves? atc tells you to turn leaving dca and you say "no i need to stay on this heading." two violations in one day. that is something to be proud of.

can the captains over there make logical decisions instead of acting like robots?

CELL CALL! you're an idiot!

Its SELCAL!! But your right we do have some capt americas but over all alot of good peeps with logical decisions. Hey RTHOMPSON what sup with the scheduals! They *************************in suck!

 

[Inconceivable]

and once, you even had an FO stow away in the lav out of SFO.....

which category was he?

 

[jackbo]

Interesting, I didn't know that they installed a cellular telephone in the CRJ cockpit. I learn many things by reading this board...

Maybe Pinnacle had cell phones installed on all A/C so we could call up the hotel on overnights to make sure there are no drunk Mesaba pilots running around yelling, knocking on doors and throwing patio furniture. If I know ahead of time, I will be more alert and can duck when a flying patio chair comes flying towards me by a wasted Mesaba pilot.

wow. i didn’t know how to spell it correctly. i must be as dumb as most of your pilots. you busted me on that one. thanks for watching out for me.

you could call to ask if there are any drunk mesaba pilots, or you could call dispatch (if they answer) and ask if the plane will be there in the morning or if it crashed while being repo-ed.

maybe the repo crew can take it all the way to 410 like smiling paul and brag about how small the speed snake is, and then take a picture of it complete with the wrong altimeter setting and post it on the internet.

yep. you guys are as safe as anyone out there.

 

[TA/RA]

Jackbo,

That was over the line.

 

[Inconceivable]

heh. maybe the one blue eye and one green eye cancelled it out and he couldn't see that!

 

[405]

Maybe I should have spelled it out in my post, type SIX. That was the joke. You're right, my second post was flamebait. The original was a first hand account. But I'll cut you some slack, it was late and Roman numerals are compicated. I don't blame you, rather the Memphis pulic education system. Also, if anti-ice fluid is part of a MEL for a inop window heat controller/wing anti-ice system, then this thing really does belong in Canada..........ehhhh?

Back to the original post now.

xjjetdog, you're completely full of sh*t.

 

[Dodge]

That's pretty f'ing sad that a professional rj pilot can't perform a simple task such as setting an altimeter, and then is dumb enough to document his incompetence.

 

[Towelie]

Jackbo,

That was over the line.

This whole thread is over the line.

I think the idiots from XJ and 9E stirring the pot on this thread, and this board, should be ashamed. This started as flamebait, obviously. But it was further lowered into the sewer by the 9E people who felt the need to make all of the Brainerd comments. The 3701 comment was a new low, although not completely unprovoked.

Somewhere I bet the management "whipsaw master" is laughing like Dr. Evil right now.

Aren't we on the same team, fellas?

 

[Towelie]

maybe the repo crew can take it all the way to 410 like smiling paul and brag about how small the speed snake is, and then take a picture of it complete with the wrong altimeter setting and post it on the internet.

yep. you guys are as safe as anyone out there.

Not related to the flamebait on this thread... is this Paul guy for real???