Newhire CAL Pilots

[seahorse]

Yes, there were a bunch of scabs stealing ALPA union money for pay to themselves, and suckin managements diick. Now we have work rules worse than regionals like 50% and now 75% deadhead pay, only 2 hrs per day pay for training, and a lot of other crap.

I think that by 2008 there won't be many scabs left, and some guys with balls doing the negotiating. I think that guy Prater is good for negotiating. Actually, do we even have any scabs left in CAL ALPA now?

 

[Hutchman]

I think that by 2008 there won't be many scabs left,.....

age 23 in 1983 = 48 years old in 2008

 

[geshields]

I think that by 2008 there won't be many scabs left,.....

age 23 in 1983 = 48 years old in 2008

Just by doing a quick scan of "the list" I found some that were born in 1958. That means that he/she retires in 12 years...

I believe that by the time 2008 comes around, the new hires that are on property now will be a lot more vocal and more than willing to fight for what we believe in (strike)...

 

[CAL EWR B737]

The following were the demographics of our pilot group of those who crossed the picket line based on the July 2000 seniority list. So obviously you have to had six years to each age group figure out today's numbers and in those in the future. I had to interpellate these numbers from a graph so there are not 100% accurate but pretty close.

Most of the first two groups are gone today. Many of the 46-50 will be gone in the next five years leaving a very small minority in the future something we have not had in my 19 years at this company
Age 56 - 60 #80

Age 51 - 55 #290

Age 46 -50 #350

Age 41 - 45 #250

Age 36 - 40 #50

 

[CAL EWR B737]

Yes, there were a bunch of scabs stealing ALPA union money for pay to themselves, and suckin managements diick. Now we have work rules worse than regionals like 50% and now 75% deadhead pay, only 2 hrs per day pay for training, and a lot of other crap.

I think that by 2008 there won't be many scabs left, and some guys with balls doing the negotiating. I think that guy Prater is good for negotiating. Actually, do we even have any scabs left in CAL ALPA now?

Current MEC

EWR Reps NO
IAH Reps NO
GUM Reps NO

CLE NO But these are the only two left overs from the last MEC. Don't trust them and they should be thrown out ASAP. Weak and incompetent

Flight Instructor Rep Do not know

MEC Officers NO

Negotiating Committee

Prater - good man worked for him and I consider him a friend.

Other two negotiating committee members I don't trust they sold the POS contract 2002 big time.

There may be a few scabs intermixed in various committees but not like a year ago.

 

[LJDRVR]

I didn't CHOOSE not to serve. I'm another one of those lucky guys who didn't quite have the vision requirement. The taxpayers got a break and I paid for my own flight training and it looks like my own retirement now too. I would have happily risked my life for my country oh high and mighty one. Your burden is one I would have paid for and I doubt I'm the only one.

Getter my friend, you chose not to serve. Believe it or not, there are other jobs in the military besides Aviator. Was serving your country only imaginable if you were flying?

The reason I'm busting your chops is the un-provoked manner in which you attacked the former AF guy. I thought his post was a reasonable contribution to the thread, while yours smacked of "You-military-guys-didn't-earn-it-and-I'm-jealeous-waaaa!"

Before you and your lack of reading comprehension acuse me of lording my military provided flight training over you mere mortals, take another look at my profile, Ace. Do you really think this SSgt didn't pay his dues? For that matter, did a guy who worked hard through a year of UPT, then IFF, then A-10 training, who put his butt on the line (Literally) somehow not pay his dues also?

Get real, we're all in this together. Congratulations on making it to CAL. See you in the ballpark.