New Rest Rules and Commuting.....

[ualdriver]

There was a short provision buried in the proposed rules which stated that commuting time is not rest, and directed the airlines to enforce it.

Where did it say that? Do you have the link to the proposed rules, I don't have it handy.

 

[pilotyip]

From what I have heard, there is a two year implementation period after it is published

 

[COOPERVANE]

Funny how sleepy controllers got the press and Congress involved...They changed the rules overnight,

Yeah, but they are controllers...they control the aircraft.

Thats what the public thinks

 

[PA44Jockey]

From what I have heard, there is a two year implementation period after it is published

From what you heard? Where did you hear?

 

[PCL_128]

The rules don't go into effect in August. The FAA is just required to issue the final rule in August. That final rule can include a phase-in period, and almost certainly will, which means that it will probably take 18-24 months for the new rules to be finally implemented. The NPRM that came out last year contained no restrictions on commuting, and there is no reason to believe that the final rule will, either.

 

[pilotyip]

From what you heard? Where did you hear?

From our POI,

 

[No Delay]

Not sure exactly how I found it...but somewhere on the FAA website:

Babbitt just last week addressed congress, mainly talking about NexGen stuff and budgets but also made a statement that there hasn't been any progress made with rest rules / pilot fatigue. It will be almost impossible to regulate / police pilots commuting. And they would not have it worked out by the August deadline. (paraphrased).

Also, there was such negative feedback from the public comments, they were working on a supplemental package and would open that up to public comments...but hasn't been done yet.



Also, this week congress passed a bill (house and senate both passed it) on FAA spending / budgets. In that bill R-Bill Shuster added a section that requires the FAA to do an economic study before implementing any rule changes.

Meaning the FAA will have to study how a new rule will impact airlines financially (prob. a 2 year process) before making any changes. This pretty much just killed the rest rule changes!

 

[Flyin2low]

From the people working on the new requirements: It will never happen.........

 

[CX880]

Not sure exactly how I found it...but somewhere on the FAA website:

Babbitt just last week addressed congress, mainly talking about NexGen stuff and budgets but also made a statement that there hasn't been any progress made with rest rules / pilot fatigue. It will be almost impossible to regulate / police pilots commuting. And they would not have it worked out by the August deadline. (paraphrased).

Also, there was such negative feedback from the public comments, they were working on a supplemental package and would open that up to public comments...but hasn't been done yet.



Also, this week congress passed a bill (house and senate both passed it) on FAA spending / budgets. In that bill R-Bill Shuster added a section that requires the FAA to do an economic study before implementing any rule changes.

Meaning the FAA will have to study how a new rule will impact airlines financially (prob. a 2 year process) before making any changes. This pretty much just killed the rest rule changes!

Shocking, it's just shokcing

 

[dispatchguy]

Not enough people have died yet due to fatigued crews - BUT, if a full 744 were to go down due to a flight crewmember commuting in from MCO to insert your favorite hub to go long haul overseas, the ink on the rules wouldnt be dry enough before they went into effect.

Remember, all aviation safety is based on regulation by body count...