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KPTPK

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Here's a new job for you guys. I don't have the mins so good luck!


Aero Charter & Transport Inc. is a well established FAR 135 company with a fleet of 10 Cessna 310 and 13 Cessna 402 C & 1 B model. Our main Base is in Albuquerque, NM with outstations in Salt Lake city, UT, Dallas, TX, El Paso, TX and Phoenix, AZ. Currently we are stacking pilots for upcoming positions. Our ground school starts December 13th and will end the 18th of December. Pilots who complete the ground school will be employed by us eventually, providing you will be recommended buy our instructor to take an 135.293, 297,299 check ride. A regular flying day starts at 06:00AM and ends at 07:30PM Starting pay $ 85.00 per day + $ 30.00 per Diem a $ 10.00 increase after 90 days Must be willing to sign 12 contract. Must be strong with IFR skills and Icing conditions. Minimum requirements are the current 135 IFR minimums with a total of 200 hours multi engine. List hours in each type and provide a cover letter. Do not apply if you don’t meet these requirements. This is for stacking pilots only. Selected pilots will work ASAP. Please apply by e-mail only: [email protected]
 
$8.50 per hour?..........do you supply the Vaseline or do we bring our own?
 
Hey Guys, I just found it on a site that I subscribe to. Figured I'd share it with some individuals that are in need of placement or info. Isn't that what this site is all about?
 
Here's a new job for you guys. I don't have the mins so good luck!
Do you really want a 135 job with only having the mins?

I had twice the mins and had almost three hundred hours in my own twin before taking a job flying 135 as captain...my right eye twitched for the first three months after I took that job.

I'm not saying you can't handle it, but don't step in the dog poo just because it's there.

BTW, we just let a guy go because he couldn't make it through extended IOE for single engine turbine 135 cargo ops. They did him a favor. He was going be on company with a keyed mike screaming while the plane did cart wheels. His background was at least 2,500 total time teaching in barons and bonanzas at the 141 school he graduated from. Intelligent guy, probably did great down at Pan Am in the level D sim, probably a fantastic instructor. He just lacked a foundation of operating in a single pilot decision making environment.

Personally, I think this applicant will do well at the airlines and I think he'll do pretty good at most anything he puts his mind to, but this time around he just wasn't ready for our rodeo. It happens to the best of us.

I'm not telling you to not take an opportunity to better yourself...heck, I went down to Orlando Exec and totally boondogled myself at a flight express sim check before I got my 135 piston twin job, where they immediately trained me and checked me out in three types in the begining.

Just be careful when you got the mins or double the mins...the learning curve is a killer.
 
135 or 121?

For along time I couldn't decide whether to continue looking for 135 jobs or to move along to finding a 121 job. So I started looking at 121. I've met alot of 135 pilots through 2 different 121 interview processes and they all want to go to 121 for some reason. I can see why I guess. I am looking forward to doing 121 flying, I was lucky enough to just score a new job. It's an actual job that has unions, great benefits and state of the art equipment, but on that same token guys are happy flying 135. 121 jobs at this time in the market are much easier to get I'll say. All the Regionals are hiring quite a few folks and it sure beats 8.50 per hr.
 
Grab your ankles

I have a really sickening feeling after reading the job description. I wished to he|| our industry could post jobs that stated, "$285.00 a day" for a starting 135 position like this. Anyone else feel the same?

I guarantee you that if you take this job, you will feel the same as if the boss told you to "Drop your drawers, grab your ankles, and bark like a dog for the next 15 minutes".

Hear me now, and believe me later.

Can this industry get any more pathetic?
What is with all you arrogant, single, low-life, freshly graduated dudes that make you say, "YES" to jobs like this?? Please give me a good solid answer.
 
"...successful applicant will have significant experience with severe icing, level 10 thunderstorms and large caliber anti-aircraft fire. Sucking the ground instructors a$$ and sleeping with management on days off a plus." :rolleyes:

Oh, I'm sorry. Was that too harsh? I've been hitting the Knob Creek a little hard tonight...TC
 
to continue what TC's sayin'
"gotta take all 3 inches while humming the song of baby's got back."
Dos Equis rocks!
 
holy crap, what frickin' jobs did you guys have at 1200 hours that you can be so spoiled??? 85 a day + 30 = 115 x 20 days a month (guessing M-F) would get you 2300 a month, 2500 after the 90 days...thats 30K a year for those without a calculator. i can point you to not one, but three companies in the DFW area that pay ~18,000 a year to do the exact same flying.

granted, the "recommended by our instructor" sounds a little hokey either way you spell it, but c'mon!!! do it for a year, get 7-800 hours of twin and get the hell out, ready for bigger and better challenges.

...how times must have changed :rolleyes:

and what the hell is this...

FN FAL said:
Do you really want a 135 job with only having the mins?
...ummm, YES!!! i started banging around in single engine piston cargo ops at 500 hours, twins by 1,000, king airs by 2,000 and caravans in between. just because you waited til 2000+ to venture into the single engine 135 world doesnt mean everyone else ought to. im also not saying everyone can do it. we too let a guy go from our van ops that was a 6,000 hour ATP...single pilot night cargo aint for everyone ;)
 
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Jeez, I remember when I first started out, I flew 135 in 402's for almost nothing and felt like the luckiest guy in the world. More than once I ate off the change I had in my ashtray. Sure I was green but everyone has to start out somewhere. I used to be jealous of the guys my age that would pull up to the FBO in their little biz jets but I soon realized they were the exception and guys like me were the rule. Now that I'm older and have been around the block more than once (currently 121) I have very fond memories for those days. I wouldn't want to do it forever (I don't think those jobs were designed for long term employment) but wouldn't trade that kind of ON THE JOB TRAINING for anything.
 
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