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Gulftest 6 is a call sign for individual test pilots at Gulfstream. The aircraft type could be a flightaware problem or an aircraft with an experimental certificate. There are a few G5's that still carry that designation that are involved in Gulfstream flight testing.
 
GLF6 (Gulftest Six) is the individual callsign of a Savannah based Gulfstream test pilot.

GLFX is any experimental Gulfstream.

Gulfstream generally has at least three test articles at any given time involved in activities such as flight control development, avionics development or work on synthetic vision with a blended display.

There is good reason Gulfstream would not want to announce a possible eight and one half foot wide, Mach 0.90 successor to the G550 with a 7,250 nm range.

[SIZE=-1]Georges Santayana said, "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

At NBAA 2000 Gulfstream let slip that a modernized GIV-SP, dubbed the GIV-X was in the works. This adversely affected current G-IV sales, so the Big G introduced an interim diversionary model termed the G400 by the company, which was simply a GIV-SP [/SIZE]that was factory equipped with most popular options, including satcom, HUD and EVS.

This took the pressure off of sales and allowed Gulfstream to continue with the planned introduction of the G450 (the actual GIV-X) on October 7, 2003.

Gulfstream learned their lesson and doesn't want to repeat history by hurting current G500/G550 sales by prematurely announcing a new aircraft.


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speaking of Savannah

A bit off topic, but...

After a recent thread here, I've been trying to keep an eye open for large cabin demo pilot position openings at Gulfstream. I have seen the fairly recent mid-size posting. Anyone have any scoop on future staffing needs for the large cabin fleet?
 
A larger cabin jet would be a nice replacement to our 604. The only thing that kept our department from a G plane was the cross section.
 
Rick James said:
A larger cabin jet would be a nice replacement to our 604. The only thing that kept our department from a G plane was the cross section.
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Interesting...

The G550 cabin is 44'11"L x 6'2"H x 7'4"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,669 cu.ft and a baggage area of 226 cu. ft.

The CL604/605 cabin is 25'6"L x 6'1"H x 8'2"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,035 cu. ft. and a baggage area of 115 cu.ft.

So...while you do have a cabin width that is 10" wider than the Gulfstream, you do loose quite a bit in cabin length, height and volume.

Anecdotally, I notice after a flight in the Gulfstream that the FA is normally pushing the seats back against the cabin sides because the passengers have slid them into the aisles and canted them towards each other to facilitate conversation. The decision to widen the Gulfstream cabin was for marketing - not functionality.



GV
 
GVFlyer said:
Interesting...

The G550 cabin is 44'11"L x 6'2"H x 7'4"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,669 cu.ft and a baggage area of 226 cu. ft.

The CL604/605 cabin is 25'6"L x 6'1"H x 8'2"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,035 cu. ft. and a baggage area of 115 cu.ft.

So...while you do have a cabin width that is 10" wider than the Gulfstream, you do loose quite a bit in cabin length, height and volume.

Anecdotally, I notice after a flight in the Gulfstream that the FA is normally pushing the seats back against the cabin sides because the passengers have slid them into the aisles and canted them towards each other to facilitate conversation. The decision to widen the Gulfstream cabin was for marketing - not functionality.



GV
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Width matters more than almost anything, baggage included, most times.
 
GVFlyer said:
Interesting...

The G550 cabin is 44'11"L x 6'2"H x 7'4"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,669 cu.ft and a baggage area of 226 cu. ft.

The CL604/605 cabin is 25'6"L x 6'1"H x 8'2"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,035 cu. ft. and a baggage area of 115 cu.ft.

So...while you do have a cabin width that is 10" wider than the Gulfstream, you do loose quite a bit in cabin length, height and volume.

Anecdotally, I notice after a flight in the Gulfstream that the FA is normally pushing the seats back against the cabin sides because the passengers have slid them into the aisles and canted them towards each other to facilitate conversation. The decision to widen the Gulfstream cabin was for marketing - not functionality.



GV
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GV,

We all know the widebody Gulfstream is the worst kept secret in the business and is only a matter of time before being officially announced (your assessment of the marketing impacts as the reason for the delay is spot-on BTW). The more important question as it relates to my employer and pilot group is whether the aircraft will be a follow-on, derivative type certificate based on the previous Gulfstream series or an entirely new, ground up certificate. Do you have any information on that issue?
 
gutshotdraw said:
GV,

The more important question as it relates to my employer and pilot group is whether the aircraft will be a follow-on, derivative type certificate based on the previous Gulfstream series or an entirely new, ground up certificate. Do you have any information on that issue?
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I just tried to PM you, but you're not taking my calls...

GV
 
GVFlyer said:
Interesting...

The G550 cabin is 44'11"L x 6'2"H x 7'4"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,669 cu.ft and a baggage area of 226 cu. ft.

The CL604/605 cabin is 25'6"L x 6'1"H x 8'2"W with an interior cabin volume of 1,035 cu. ft. and a baggage area of 115 cu.ft.

So...while you do have a cabin width that is 10" wider than the Gulfstream, you do loose quite a bit in cabin length, height and volume.

Anecdotally, I notice after a flight in the Gulfstream that the FA is normally pushing the seats back against the cabin sides because the passengers have slid them into the aisles and canted them towards each other to facilitate conversation. The decision to widen the Gulfstream cabin was for marketing - not functionality.



GV
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While I can't argue the facts, nor would I, the powers that be wanted a wider cabin at all costs. The talk of a 605 to replace our 604 is ongoing just because of the "wider" cabin (I realize how small it really is). I hope that Gulfstream will produce an aircraft to fill our next order, though I doubt it will be in time.
P.S. GV, I always value your input and look forward to your informative posts.
 
Gulfstream GX

A little birdy told me that me that its true when Gulfstream denies that there is a G600 on the way. Because it will be called the G7000 in reference to its 7000nm range. They will build it. The Global 5000/XRS can't go unchallenged. :beer:
 
It had better have a crew rest area that can store two pilots then. At that kind of range, Part 91K and Part 135 operations can't fully exploit the capability without 4 pilots. Part 91K and Part 135 operators would make up a large portion of the potential customer base.
 

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