New Delta Jumpseat rules

[OffHot]

Why you guys so hard on DL at least they are changing. We (SWA) also do not offer unlimited jumpseat to everyone. We negotiate with each company that also does it, i.e AWA JBLU etc while not doing for AIR TRAN and if memory serves me right NWA. When we reached an agreement with AA it was many months down the road before it took effect.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Alice,

Stop the presses. On this we agree. And who said this would never happen?

I say UAL yank DL from the unlimited agreement until 1/01/07. I would like to see the other carriers do the same thing. It will only be with pressure applied in the commutes of the DL pilots that this is changed. If anyone needs to grow up and be adults it should be DL. This portioning out of jumpseats is ridiculous.

WTFO? Could this be the sign of the second coming? And you (32) haven't even knocked jb on this thread. I am going to buy a lottery ticket right now, wait, what's that honey ... "the kids just dug up Jimmy Hoffa in our sandbox?"

Well sonofagun...

 

[DonVerita]

airtran? that will cost you $30.

First, your name says it all.

Second...don't try to troll up this subject. If you had spent any amount of time on this board following the J/S topic on multiple threads you would be keenly aware that the AirTran pilots despise this crock of $hit management group we have who will spare no expense to make our commuting lives more difficult while we are in contract negotiations.

It is management who imposed the $25 charge for the second and subsequent jumpseater. This WILL go away in the new contract...if we ever get one. In the meantime, when you strut on up to an AirTran gate, just envision yourself at a Delta gate. One jumpseat installed = one jumpseat rider. Two on most of the 737-700's. If some other OAL pilot beat you to it, then just wait for the next flight. That's what would happen to you at Delta and that's what's going to happen to you at AirTran...for now.

 

[RUhiring?]

at DL they get unlimited from us, so that's good enough. Why would the pilots want to spend any kind of negotiating capital to get something that doesn't help them? Giving other airlines unlimited j/s access does NOTHING for the DL pilots because most everyone else already gives THEM unlimited j/s. It's the same at NW....they GET unlimited, but don't OFFER unlimited. For them to say "hey, at least it's something" is a very weak reply. I can't believe that Delta even offers the j/s. Management must have given them that one as a freebee 10 years ago.

I fly for a regional that isn't even mentioned. But putting that aside, why is it that UAL has to wait until Jan 1? WTF? There isn't even any money involved in that decision. Hell, there isn't any money involved in any J/S reciprical agreement. This is where I just don't understand the whole issue of deciding how many j/s to take. Are any of us going to buy a ticket if we get denied a j/s.....of course not.

 

[Capn Mike]

WTFO? Could this be the sign of the second coming? And you (32) haven't even knocked jb on this thread. I am going to buy a lottery ticket right now, wait, what's that honey ... "the kids just dug up Jimmy Hoffa in our sandbox?"

Well sonofagun...

YET. Just give him some time.

 

[32LT10]

YET. Just give him some time.

From what I hear JBLU has a nice jumpseat policy.

 

[GogglesPisano]

From what I hear JBLU has a nice jumpseat policy.

Oh my God. We've entered an alternate universe. Everyone has goatees (for the trekkies here)

 

[Spectre]

Exactly. That's why you all should hope that JetBlue keeps growing and does really well. If JetBlue comes to your city with their unlimited jumpseats, we'd all have easier commutes!

 

[Lake Alice]

Alice,

Stop the presses. On this we agree. And who said this would never happen?

I say UAL yank DL from the unlimited agreement until 1/01/07. I would like to see the other carriers do the same thing. It will only be with pressure applied in the commutes of the DL pilots that this is changed. If anyone needs to grow up and be adults it should be DL. This portioning out of jumpseats is ridiculous.

I didnt' expect this either

Right or wrong I think the DL wants their cake and eat it too. Its like shacking up with your fat, chubby, ugly, (insert adjective here), neighbor. You like the booty call when it suits you but definately not in public.

Lastly, it has to do with a superiority complex.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

First, your name says it all.

Second...don't try to troll up this subject. If you had spent any amount of time on this board following the J/S topic on multiple threads you would be keenly aware that the AirTran pilots despise this crock of $hit management group we have who will spare no expense to make our commuting lives more difficult while we are in contract negotiations.

It is management who imposed the $25 charge for the second and subsequent jumpseater. This WILL go away in the new contract...if we ever get one. In the meantime, when you strut on up to an AirTran gate, just envision yourself at a Delta gate. One jumpseat installed = one jumpseat rider. Two on most of the 737-700's. If some other OAL pilot beat you to it, then just wait for the next flight. That's what would happen to you at Delta and that's what's going to happen to you at AirTran...for now.

Don,

I tried as best as I could to envision myself going to the Delta gate to get on the jumpseat for DELTA's 737-700 - special orders with two jumpseats I am assuming - and it wasn't so bad. Takes the stress off when there is no airplane at DAL such as this ;-)

Been beat up enough on another thread on the whole " who's to blame" js topic. Those that think it's just an easy "flip the switch" request from DALPA, fine - you win. Words here are wasted.

By the way - I went MSY to ATL last year on AirTran (missed my DAL flight), agent said he would overlook the extra $ for add'l JS if capt. was o.k. with it. Capt. was not o.k. with it, so I got the wallet out. Got a ride - sort of unlimitted js - but hardly the lovefest that exists everywhere else except DAL according to this foruml

United Plus!! Or something like that.....

 

[Hutcha]

at DL they get unlimited from us, so that's good enough. Why would the pilots want to spend any kind of negotiating capital to get something that doesn't help them?

Ditto! I've been saying this for years. There is a very small percentage that will fight for something just because they believe it's the right thing to do. The majority you have to push. I would support a reciprocal unlimited J/S policy.