New Delta 767-300ER flying........some NRT

[General Lee]

Delta filed this with the DOT today...

Delta, a designated non-incumbent carrier under the U.S.-Japan Air Transport Services Agreement, hereby applies for an allocation of frequencies to operate nonstop combination service on the following routes:

Portland-Tokyo - 7 frequencies
Guam-Tokyo - 7 frequencies
Honolulu-Tokyo - 7 frequencies

On or about June 1, 2009, Delta plans to replace Northwest as the operating carriers on the above-named routes. This will better enable the two carriers to align capacity with demand. Delta will operate 221-seat Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, in lieu of the 243 seat Airbus A-330-200 aircraft currently operated by Northwest. Northwest may remain a marketing carrier on some or all of the routes by utilizing a portion of Delta’s and Northwest’s existing allocation of U.S.-Japan same-country codeshare frequencies. The change in operating carriers is tentatively scheduled for June 1; however, some of these services could be transitioned as early as the beginning of the March 28, 2009 IATA Summer Season. Delta requests that any startup or dormancy condition run from June 1, 2009.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FBN0223]

There go my GUM layovers.

 

[Full of LUV]

Should I let her know?

There go my GUM layovers.

Should I let the LBFM know you are not coming back to town?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

More to come!

 

[General Lee]

I have heard 767ERs to AMS from PDX, but A330s from SLC to NRT (both were in the slide show I believe). Also, A330s from JFK to Amman, Cairo, and Tel Aviv, and maybe some Africa from ATL. Interesting indeed. They have options on which planes to use to maxamize the revenue, and they are going to exploit that.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Any news on the MSP-NRT-MSP service? Just wondering if the 747 will be replaced by the 777 on this route

 

[30West]

One went to DCA the other day. Was that a one time thing or is it going to be a regular thing as well?

 

[vschip]

Delta filed this with the DOT today...

Delta, a designated non-incumbent carrier under the U.S.-Japan Air Transport Services Agreement, hereby applies for an allocation of frequencies to operate nonstop combination service on the following routes:

Portland-Tokyo - 7 frequencies
Guam-Tokyo - 7 frequencies
Honolulu-Tokyo - 7 frequencies

On or about June 1, 2009, Delta plans to replace Northwest as the operating carriers on the above-named routes. This will better enable the two carriers to align capacity with demand. Delta will operate 221-seat Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, in lieu of the 243 seat Airbus A-330-200 aircraft currently operated by Northwest. Northwest may remain a marketing carrier on some or all of the routes by utilizing a portion of Delta’s and Northwest’s existing allocation of U.S.-Japan same-country codeshare frequencies. The change in operating carriers is tentatively scheduled for June 1; however, some of these services could be transitioned as early as the beginning of the March 28, 2009 IATA Summer Season. Delta requests that any startup or dormancy condition run from June 1, 2009.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Dumb question, but Delta buys NWA, they don't get the slots that NWA owns?? As far as I can tell, NWA already flys those routes, but Delta has to apply for them after buying NWA? Is it a Japan control thing, or a DOT thing??

 

[filejw]

Dumb question, but Delta buys NWA, they don't get the slots that NWA owns?? As far as I can tell, NWA already flys those routes, but Delta has to apply for them after buying NWA? Is it a Japan control thing, or a DOT thing??

Both...............

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Yes, but these changes are done prior to SOC so they had to do this since the service will be flown on another ticket, when the NWA ticket is still around. It is just making sure all duckies are in a row. That is all.

The plan was to have the 777's migrate North.

 

[dispatchguy]

One went to DCA the other day. Was that a one time thing or is it going to be a regular thing as well?

That was a domestic 767 - it was a proving run to see what happens when u park a 767 at DCA.

Reason - to have equipment upgrades to larger equipment at DCA to support the increased loads for the inauguration/annointment....

 

[flap operator]

NWA currently operates the 298 seat 330-300 on NRT-GUM (in addition to 757s) and NRT-HNL (in addition to a 744). NRT-SLC is the 243 seat 330-200. A bigger decrease in capacity than the filing eludes to, however both NRT-GUM and NRT-HNL will still have the other flights operated by the other equipment... unless DL gets rid of those too.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Does NWA still do HNL-GUM?

 

[flap operator]

No - they haven't done that in probably over 10 years. It was short lived.

 

[pipe]

That was a domestic 767 - it was a proving run to see what happens when u park a 767 at DCA.

Reason - to have equipment upgrades to larger equipment at DCA to support the increased loads for the inauguration/annointment....

Wouldn't a tape measure and a chalk outline be a little cheaper? Why is everyone losing money again?

PIPE

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Wouldn't a tape measure and a chalk outline be a little cheaper? Why is everyone losing money again?

PIPE

Not everyone will lose money next year