New CP's At ASA

[701EV]

Two new CP's at ASA, FM and KS. The memo states RC is leaving in Sept, sorry to hear that. I curious as to who picked them? BD, SH, CT, and was BH involved?
I know both and have flown with both of them. I think they will do a good job.

Good luck to FM and KS.

701EV

 

[USCtrojan]

Two new CP's at ASA, FM and KS. The memo states RC is leaving in Sept, sorry to hear that. I curious as to who picked them? BD, SH, CT, and was BH involved?
I know both and have flown with both of them. I think they will do a good job.

Good luck to FM and KS.

701EV

I don't know either of these newbies. I'm very sorry to see RC going. He's the only one I trusted in the CP's office. I wonder if this means BD and BS are on a short list too? SH got what he wanted, he's replacing competent CP's, hopefully they work out. Hate to say it, I'm skeptical.

Trojan

 

[McNugent]

BD needs to roll on too. Unless you know him personally, he pretty much blows you off and doesn't give a chit about anyone but the buddies he's hanging out with in his office. Just my personal experience with the guy...

 

[Beergut]

BD needs to roll on too. Unless you know him personally, he pretty much blows you off and doesn't give a chit about anyone but the buddies he's hanging out with in his office. Just my personal experience with the guy...

BD does a good job. He just has to filter through the BS. I find that most people that complain about the CP's probably had some BS problem to begin with.

 

[McNugent]

BD does a good job. He just has to filter through the BS. I find that most people that complain about the CP's probably had some BS problem to begin with.

Think what you want, I don't go to those guys unless it's a last resort because I know they deal with a lot of BS. So there's a damn good reason when I ask for their help. BD has not only blown me off twice, but insulted me(unintentionally) in the process. The guy has just been in there too long. I welcome the new guys, and hope they bring a fresher face to the CP office.

 

[COOPERVANE]

You know KC is a heck of a guy, but I really liked PQ better. I just hope the CP lets the ACP's really help out the LP's problems PDQ and it is not SOP in the CPO like normal.

 

[1080P]

I don't know either of these newbies. I'm very sorry to see RC going. He's the only one I trusted in the CP's office. I wonder if this means BD and BS are on a short list too? SH got what he wanted, he's replacing competent CP's, hopefully they work out. Hate to say it, I'm skeptical.

Trojan

You don't know KS? He's been an IP for a long time and is a great guy. He's not some young punk, I think he'll do a good job. Did you apply?

 

[No Delay]

I have had a couple of training class with KS. Seem like a nice enough guy...laid back...fun to be around. Seems like a pretty straight forward guy. I would take him as a guy who has been around the block enough not to get turned into a management tool.

Time will tell....

 

[jstyle13]

BD needs to roll on too. Unless you know him personally, he pretty much blows you off and doesn't give a chit about anyone but the buddies he's hanging out with in his office. Just my personal experience with the guy...

I just wish he'd add a couple more shirts to his rotation of 2.....

 

[USCtrojan]

You don't know KS? He's been an IP for a long time and is a great guy. He's not some young punk, I think he'll do a good job. Did you apply?

I hope you're right. In my experience at ASA, there was one CP I could trust--RC. Saw it first hand in SLC, and he's helped me through a few issues as well. Terrific guy and he will be missed as a Chief Pilot. I felt he represented his pilots--something that has been very rare at ASA. I've been burned in the past by a number of Chief Pilots because they represented Mgmt's wishes.

No, I did not apply. You couldn't create a payrate with enough 0's behind it for me to do it--ever. That being said, a good CP is worth his/her weight in gold. RC fit that bill, I felt.

I'm not saying either of the 2 newbies will be good or bad. Based on percentages in the past, I'm a little skeptical. Glad to hear KS is a good guy. I still wouldn't have traded RC for anyone.

Trojan

 

[Beergut]

Think what you want, I don't go to those guys unless it's a last resort because I know they deal with a lot of BS. So there's a damn good reason when I ask for their help. BD has not only blown me off twice, but insulted me(unintentionally) in the process. The guy has just been in there too long. I welcome the new guys, and hope they bring a fresher face to the CP office.

Just the other day I heard a guy complaining about FL. A really senior line pilot, I was shocked to hear it. Being a CP is a thankless job that comes with a lot of BS. I know I wouldn't want it because no matter how good a job you do someone is going to think you're worthless. :nuts:

 

[Richard Gozinya]

KS is a great guy. He is a gun pilot from way back. I have known him for many, many years. He is very approachable, has both feet on the ground, and can be a no BS guy when the situation calls for it. He is also someone you can sit down and have a beer with. He is no stooge and won't be a puppet. He is really close to the mold that RC came from. Good change for the pilots.

Dick

 

[anon]

Great choice in KS. I've worked with him several times and he will do an excellent job as a chief pilot. Like the others said, I hate to see RC bow out, he told it like it was.

 

[1080P]

I hope you're right. In my experience at ASA, there was one CP I could trust--RC. Saw it first hand in SLC, and he's helped me through a few issues as well. Terrific guy and he will be missed as a Chief Pilot. I felt he represented his pilots--something that has been very rare at ASA. I've been burned in the past by a number of Chief Pilots because they represented Mgmt's wishes.

No, I did not apply. You couldn't create a payrate with enough 0's behind it for me to do it--ever. That being said, a good CP is worth his/her weight in gold. RC fit that bill, I felt.

I'm not saying either of the 2 newbies will be good or bad. Based on percentages in the past, I'm a little skeptical. Glad to hear KS is a good guy. I still wouldn't have traded RC for anyone.

Trojan

I agree RC is the most down to earth guy we've got and it's sad to see him go. I think he'll be happier flying the line, I know I would be.

 

[JettBoii]

KS for president.

 

[Rusty Nail]

Ken is a great person. I would dive on a grenade for that guy. Great choice!

 

[rightseatjocky]

I hope you're right. In my experience at ASA, there was one CP I could trust--RC. Saw it first hand in SLC, and he's helped me through a few issues as well. Terrific guy and he will be missed as a Chief Pilot. I felt he represented his pilots--something that has been very rare at ASA. I've been burned in the past by a number of Chief Pilots because they represented Mgmt's wishes.

No, I did not apply. You couldn't create a payrate with enough 0's behind it for me to do it--ever. That being said, a good CP is worth his/her weight in gold. RC fit that bill, I felt.

I'm not saying either of the 2 newbies will be good or bad. Based on percentages in the past, I'm a little skeptical. Glad to hear KS is a good guy. I still wouldn't have traded RC for anyone.

Trojan

USC,
You know who I am and I agree with you 100%. RC is the best cheif pilot that ASa has seen when it comes to taking care of his troops. I too have had some problems that he helped me with. I have gone to FL, BS and Bd and not one of them would help me with what I needed help.
I too am going to miss RC, not knowing the other guys, I am just going to have to see and wait to make my choice.

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

I love the uniform Nazi ! He was a straight shooter for the most part. I'm assuming that he's finally retiring?

And on the BD note. He's a puppet for management and was an enemy of the line pilot during contract talks....he's just another of 'them'.....That's one person that needs to be subjected to term limits in the office.

 

[OCP]

I agree RC is the most down to earth guy we've got and it's sad to see him go. I think he'll be happier flying the line, I know I would be.

He won't be flying the line, he'll be retiring.

 

[MXAV8R]

Is "KS" Ken Smith?
Oh and Robert Connelly (sp?) was the best damn Chief Pilot during my time at ASA. If one of his pilots was in trouble and in-the-right, he would defend them 100%. Period.

 

[USCtrojan]

Well I just found out Robert C. did NOT in fact step down, he was fired from his Chief Pilot position. I'd like to be the first to start the SH is a dirtbag thread. Mr. Connelly of course is being gracious about it stating he knew it was coming anyway. Still angers me, however.

Trojan

 

[sweptback]

Well I just found out Robert C. did NOT in fact step down, he was fired from his Chief Pilot position. I'd like to be the first to start the SH is a dirtbag thread. Mr. Connelly of course is being gracious about it stating he knew it was coming anyway. Still angers me, however.

Terrible! Those of you that think SH is a good guy... how do you justify this? RC was an excellent chief pilot and I'm sad to see him go.

 

[Tarzan]

I am sad to see RC go. Great guy who I loved to get riled up. I would chuckle all day from his profane use of the language in new and imaginative ways. The guy missed his flight home one night to take care of an issue for me that needed help with. I was pretty ticked that he missed his commute but I knew I had someone there I could trust to help me if I needed it. I'll miss him greatly.

KS is a great guy. I hope he retains his same outlook in his new position. The other new guy, I won't bother speaking with him at all unless it's to say hello. And yes I know him too.

 

[crjskipper]

sad to see RC go, but it seemed like he knew it was coming, his health hasnt been too good for a while, and his mood was not the same. dont know KS that well but FM is a good find. the CPs have mentioned that they are now term limited, i think thats a good thing. i assumed RC leaving was a combo of health and term limit. fresh blood in the office is a good thing.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Funny KS, did not go the FAA? Interesting.

 

[lear35pilot]

Are the great posts about RC meaning Robert Con.????? I'm amazed! I had the worst luck with him! I'm have no occurences and a clean record at ASA and had a problem with scheduling putting a trip on me that they never notified me of and Robert C pretty much told me that I would probably get an occurence but I could try to grieve it, but would probably loose the grieveance. I was pissed! I never not show up for a trip that I know about. He was NO HELP AT ALLL!!! I went and saw Fred L and he was very helpful and he checked the records and said that I was never notified through appropriate company means ie one on one call from sched. They tried to notify me through the computer. Ever since then, I avoid RC if I can help it. He seemed to be budy budy with the Dallas guys, but not with the ATL people.
The post about BD needs to go is correct. I had a friend that was condemned by BD for taking the wrong airplane and was facing disciplinary action. He and the other crew member dug through the trash to find the release of that flight and prove they took the correct airplane. They found the release and were in the correct and all BD had to say was "I guess we'll let you off on this one". WTF! BD should have been apologizing for ever telling someone they took the wrong A/C and been like I'm sorry for this, but he didn't care. He's burned out and needs to do something else.

BY Far! Fred L. is the best that ASA has ever had that I've known of. He always gave everyone the respect that they had a good reason to come to him. He's been the fairest that I've ever known of around here.

 

[crjskipper]

the cps have gotten a lot better in the last year, but bd and rc always prefered the dfw and slc guys, i was just lucky to be a dfw guy. fl is nice but i always found him useless unless you wanted someone to talk to about anything other than flying. if i need to go to a cp i see bs, just as smart as rc but not as grumpy. i like bd, but in general hes just not friendly. rc is a good man, but its a good time for him to bow out.

 

[USCtrojan]

Well I just found out Robert C. did NOT in fact step down, he was fired from his Chief Pilot position. I'd like to be the first to start the SH is a dirtbag thread. Mr. Connelly of course is being gracious about it stating he knew it was coming anyway. Still angers me, however.

Trojan

I just spoke with Robert personally. He's getting the corkscrew, with no KY. I can tell you as trying to stay "middle of the road" as possible, SH needs to go--yesterday. Robert was as professional as they come. Said nothing but good things about the new blood. Check out OurASA now, the email RC sent is pretty classic....

Trojan

 

[crjskipper]

i dont see that as classic, lacks class in my book - i just read his post and it is about as sad as can be. no matter what the reason, you dont do that. period. there are always two sides to every story, im sure SH had reason, regardless i thought more of RC.

 

[Sherpa]

RC has a dry sense of humor to some but I definitely have to give him credit for being a great CP. I was happy to see him make the moves from DFW and SLC. Sucks that SH sacked him. I don't think Robert will fly the line, his wife has plenty of money and he's got a good life in Austin.

Loved the email! It may not be professional but heck, if they wanted professional they wouldn't have sacked him in the first place.

We'll miss RC.