new 747 PFT job on climbto350.com

[Bdfg1]

Whatever makes you feel better little boy.

I don't have the parents to write the check to go to Focus, I would rather work under the new crappy work rules on my company but someday we will regain some footing post BK. I wish the refugee's that were furloughed from good companies a quick return to their rightful spots. I am glad my buddy didn't sign up to fly the pond with you wonder kids.


Whatever makes you guys sleep better at night. 1800 hours and 20K and YOU TOO CAN BE A 747 Pilot! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Again, sorry they turned you down.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Again, sorry they turned you down.

Don't know much about Focus other than what some of their pilots have told me.

Buying your type on a 747 for the chance to interview with them? Seems out of line. They are a start up, their pay is crap (not that everybody elses is much better right now), and the 747 type is even more useless than the 737 type with no time in the airplane.

Given the situation at Polar right now, there is a real good chance that a bunch of high time 747 pilots may be swarming over to Focus and taking the spots anyhow.

I would say that it is not the best type rating that you could spend your money on.

 

[Captain Monkey Suit]

This is suppose to be fun...and your not fun, Sonny. Regardless of who they work for or what they did or didn't do...shouldn't be anyone's business but their own. If you really are a 747 driver at United...I would have expected a bit more empathy for those that are less "fortunate" than yourself. Let's get back to the topic...

 

[pilotlbs]

Really?!

YOU TOO CAN BE A 747 Pilot! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Calm down there chief, hey isn't United the company that hires 300 hour girls? Can I be a 747 pilot too?!
Here let me help you out: "800 hours and you've flown a 402, what a real pro!" There yuh go, hope that helps

 

[Clyde]

southwest has been doing this for years. how come no one calls it PFT?

Technically, I think that you must have your type-rating, you don't write Southwest Airlines a check to their training department.

But then again what do I know, I just haul boxes.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Calm down there chief, hey isn't United the company that hires 300 hour girls? Can I be a 747 pilot too?!
Here let me help you out: "800 hours and you've flown a 402, what a real pro!" There yuh go, hope that helps

Ever wonder why so many chicks are flying for ASA and other regionals?

Answer: Cause we are NOT hiring right now! (Evil Laughter....Ha! HA! HA!)

Yeah UAL had to do some EEOC mandated hiring, but they didn't have to fork over a ton of cash to get the job either.

I still think its B.S. for the riddle kids to go to Focus, but then again what do I know?

Have fun in the 402 Chief....enjoy it while you can, I never did fly Cessna's!

 

[JAC2LAS]

Ever wonder why so many chicks are flying for ASA and other regionals?

Answer: Cause we are NOT hiring right now! (Evil Laughter....Ha! HA! HA!)

Yeah UAL had to do some EEOC mandated hiring, but they didn't have to fork over a ton of cash to get the job either.

I still think its B.S. for the riddle kids to go to Focus, but then again what do I know?

Have fun in the 402 Chief....enjoy it while you can, I never did fly Cessna's!

I looked into it and your in luck, it's only 3 months til' you can re-apply. Better luck this time. FYI, it's probably your lack of cessna time that did you the harm. You should go get checked out in a local 172 to get a leg up on everyone else.

 

[Capt.LongThrust]

Ever wonder why so many chicks are flying for ASA and other regionals?

Answer: Cause we are NOT hiring right now! (Evil Laughter....Ha! HA! HA!)

Yeah UAL had to do some EEOC mandated hiring, but they didn't have to fork over a ton of cash to get the job either.

I still think its B.S. for the riddle kids to go to Focus, but then again what do I know?

Have fun in the 402 Chief....enjoy it while you can, I never did fly Cessna's!

From reading your posts it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about. There is a little school in the southwest called Arizona State University. They would pay mucho $$$$$ to go through the big U's 737 flight officer program. They would leave after the summer and come back with their 1500 hours and get hired.

Now my concern would be dodging the next round of concessions you will be looking at.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

Man, this is getting painful.

KeroseneSnorter- No one has to pay to work at Focus. I'll say that again...NO ONE has to pay to work at Focus. You don't need a type to get hired; they type everyone, including FO's. There is no provision for, and no possibility of, someone writing a check and getting employed. Can't happen. They pay you to come to training, not the other way around. Sonny is simply making it up...actually, that's not true. He's just flat out lying.

Sonny- How can you talk about PFT, when you ACTUALLY wrote United a check for $42,157.22? I've seen a copy of the cancelled check, sent to me by my buddy in management there, so don't bother to deny it. You paid that amount for an initial qualification as a 727 FE. You are the ultimate PFTer. You are an embarressment to the profession.

 

[JAC2LAS]

Sonny- How can you talk about PFT, when you ACTUALLY wrote United a check for $42,157.22? I've seen a copy of the cancelled check, sent to me by my buddy in management there, so don't bother to deny it. You paid that amount for an initial qualification as a 727 FE. You are the ultimate PFTer. You are an embarressment to the profession.

Everyone who doesn't like Sonny say "I"

 

[VABB]

Is That The Best You Can Do?

O.K., maybe I just have too much time on my hands here. But, I counted 7 postings, of someone saying "sorry to hear they didn't hire you", or "sorry they turned you down", or "you can reapply in 6 mos", or something stupid like that.

Why is it when one person's airline gets trashed by some anonymous poster, the comeback is usually something like that? Is that the equivalent of the gradeschool phrase "I know you are, but what am I?"

In second place is the good 'ol "does your mommy and daddy know you are on their computer?"

As far as Focus is concerned. I don't think too many people are sorry that they didn't get hired there, as it seems to be a real scumbag outfit and it hasn't even flown yet. I think more people are disappointed that they did get the job.

If ERAU is involved somehow, and they are with their dumb little CAPT program, than you know some poor flight student is getting ripped off. Isn't CAPT that rip-off program that charges an insane amount of money so you can get type-rated in an MD-90?

What is the big news now, that ERAU is promising students (with a lot of cash or credit) the opportunity to sit sideways in 747 for Focus? Oooh, there's a winner. Let me guess, Focus is next up and coming Tradewinds.

So a student goes to ERAU, which just by itself is a huge waste of money. Then, if that weren't enough, they get to fork over even more dough for the opportunity to get a job with a bottom-feeder. How does ERAU entice people to do this, by promising low wages, long work days, and weeks away from home? Oh, but you will be on a 747, so the fact that a lifetime of wages won't be enough to break even with the cost of training will be negated by being able to crew on a 747.

But wait, what if Focus doesen't make it? Will Focus/ERAU refund the cost of the training to the students? But, that shouldn't be an issue. Start-up airlines, especially those flying gas-guzzlers seem to have a high ratte of success.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

O.K., maybe I just have too much time on my hands here. But, I counted 7 postings, of someone saying "sorry to hear they didn't hire you", or "sorry they turned you down", or "you can reapply in 6 mos", or something stupid like that.

Why is it when one person's airline gets trashed by some anonymous poster, the comeback is usually something like that? Is that the equivalent of the gradeschool phrase "I know you are, but what am I?"

In second place is the good 'ol "does your mommy and daddy know you are on their computer?"

As far as Focus is concerned. I don't think too many people are sorry that they didn't get hired there, as it seems to be a real scumbag outfit and it hasn't even flown yet. I think more people are disappointed that they did get the job.

If ERAU is involved somehow, and they are with their dumb little CAPT program, than you know some poor flight student is getting ripped off. Isn't CAPT that rip-off program that charges an insane amount of money so you can get type-rated in an MD-90?

What is the big news now, that ERAU is promising students (with a lot of cash or credit) the opportunity to sit sideways in 747 for Focus? Oooh, there's a winner. Let me guess, Focus is next up and coming Tradewinds.

So a student goes to ERAU, which just by itself is a huge waste of money. Then, if that weren't enough, they get to fork over even more dough for the opportunity to get a job with a bottom-feeder. How does ERAU entice people to do this, by promising low wages, long work days, and weeks away from home? Oh, but you will be on a 747, so the fact that a lifetime of wages won't be enough to break even with the cost of training will be negated by being able to crew on a 747.

But wait, what if Focus doesen't make it? Will Focus/ERAU refund the cost of the training to the students? But, that shouldn't be an issue. Start-up airlines, especially those flying gas-guzzlers seem to have a high ratte of success.

VABB,

Well said. You make the point I was trying to make all along. I feel better that some guys have the BIG PICTURE.

If it makes the wannabe 747 driver feel better that "I got turned down at the interview" so be it. I still would NEVER interview at FOCUS even if UAL went CHAP 7, and IF I DID, I would have laughed at the joker doing the interview in the lobby of a Holiday Inn Express. WHAT A JOKE!

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Man, this is getting painful.

KeroseneSnorter- No one has to pay to work at Focus. I'll say that again...NO ONE has to pay to work at Focus. You don't need a type to get hired; they type everyone, including FO's. There is no provision for, and no possibility of, someone writing a check and getting employed. Can't happen. They pay you to come to training, not the other way around. Sonny is simply making it up...actually, that's not true. He's just flat out lying.

Sonny- How can you talk about PFT, when you ACTUALLY wrote United a check for $42,157.22? I've seen a copy of the cancelled check, sent to me by my buddy in management there, so don't bother to deny it. You paid that amount for an initial qualification as a 727 FE. You are the ultimate PFTer. You are an embarressment to the profession.

Yeah whatever. I bought my way into the Navy, and I did the same with UAL. Tell my USMC DI that way back in AOCS, I am sure he didn't get the check.

 

[Irishav8r]

I guess I don't understand why people who claim to be flying people would come on a cargo thread to pick a fight. Your Senority at UAL is secure so why would you give a crap what other operations are doing. BTW only those of us who actually work at scum-bag operations actually get to call them that. Woops I forgot, your at United.

 

[Capt.LongThrust]

Yeah whatever. I bought my way into the Navy, and I did the same with UAL. Tell my USMC DI that way back in AOCS, I am sure he didn't get the check.

United ha ha. And you are saying other guys are working for a scumbag outfit? You remind me of that highschool football star that just can't come to grips, and now is a "has-been". The big U is a joke.