NetJets Working on CASS Approval?

[PCL_128]

Are you advocating that I should handle a dirty lav and then catering?

No, I'm advocating that your fellow Netjets pilots stop telling me to wipe down the lav and clean the cabin for them.

 

[brokeflyer]

So the Netjets pretty boys tip someone else to clean the lav and clean the cabin, but they expect us 121 guys to do it ourselves? I think not. Maybe VOR is right about you guys.

lol give it up man, you don't get it.

Keeping the "value" in valujet.....

 

[FLYLOW22]

No, I'm advocating that your fellow Netjets pilots stop telling me to wipe down the lav and clean the cabin for them.

Wiping the lav down and dumping a honeypot are 2 very different things. I do frequently wipe the lave down... and the interiors.

 

[fischman]

No, I'm advocating that your fellow Netjets pilots stop telling me to wipe down the lav and clean the cabin for them.

Does that hurt your feelings when I tell you your plane is a disgusting mess???

Grow up and take pride in your work.

You are misunderstanding what flylow is saying. We tip line service to change out the blue juice. We wipe down the lav ourselves. In extreme cases we can get the company to bring on professional cleaners. Usually it is a 30 second wipe down.

FWIW, I agree with JungleJett. You wouldn't make it over here.

 

[JungleJett]

My crap does stink....smells like good crew food, sometimes steak..sometimes the good omelets I order as a crew meal.

It always smells like success...respect...hard work....and a sense of satisfaction and ownership in a world class product. You?

To the ignore list you go.



Fly...a recovered 121 pilot...that's AWESOME! I keep putting some salve on it and it is starting to go away!

 

[waveflyer]

Part of what makes our unions lose credibility is we lack leverage due to a lack of credibility. It's called leadership.
If my customer needs a stroller from down below- i'll go get it. If a wheelchair needs to be pushed- i'll do that. Cleaning down the lav- i'm a 121 legacy airline pilot and do that all the time for no other reason than it bugs the he!! out of me to imagine a customer using it if it's not.

I've had union reps TRY to get on me for doing someone else's work- I tell them quickly that i believe in working hard-and if i can make their job easier, i'm glad to do it. I think of the customer- and making sure that everyone around me knows that i'll do whatever it takes to satisfy them. That's a contageous attitude. Pilots, as leaders, have a responsibility to act this way. We are the most leveraged in any airline- why any pilot would want to foster an attitude of "that's not my job!", i have no idea. It's very self-defeating. If the lowliest ramper sees me getting my hands dirty for the customer- they'll have no valid excuse in their own mind for being lazy. That's a good thing for everyone.

I don't mind working hard at all. What i mind is not getting paid for that work- and having the earnings off that work stolen by over-paid execs. But guess what?= a union negotiation is a VERY political ordeal. If we are viewed as uptight premadonna's vs. intelligent and hard-working- we will have a MUCH harder time in those negotiations. OUR IMAGE MATTERS.

 

[Flopgut]

Folks, I've come back to this thread and I'll try to be more respectful.

I have got to stick up for PCL here.

Are you guys actually ragging on him because you doubt his willingness to prostrate and kow tow to a wealthy, overindulged traveler is sufficient to NJA standards? You guys want to rethink that as being such a bad thing?

I'm sure PCL could cut the gig where I work. And let's just say we aren't worried about whether or not the guy in 3B has the Weekend Journal.

 

[Flopgut]

Quit complaining and take pride in your work. That is your problem, you think the world owes you something.

As a captain id hope that you would know the condition of your plane reflects upon YOU. saying "it isnt my job" is exactly why you wouldnt make it at netjets.

I wish you would have come here, I would take pride in changing your life for the better.

Interesting.

 

[Flopgut]

As I said in another post JungleJett, guys like PCL_128 say it's "their" plane when things are good or they have to put on their hat and play pilot. Yet, when things go wrong it's the company's fault or it's someone elses problem. The crew is part of the company, problem and solution.
I'm with you about pitching in when times call for it. I never did the lav, but I did load bags, check-in pax and escorted them too. I even did my own windows when a station was busy. Hey, I need to see out of them not the ground crew. All this was while flying a Dash 8-300. So it wasn't a light twin or single. In the military things like that were done daily so I guess that prepared me for the civil side. Guys like PCL_128 forget what it takes to get a job done; they just enter the plane, turn left and camp until it's time to look for pretty women at the end of the trip in sunny Florida.
I am sure PCL_128 or others will try to tell me what they use to do, but what do they do now at their current job? That's what we are talking about. I know there are pilots out there that don't think other tasks are beneath them and lend assistance when it's needed. Hell, I've seen it happen.

Interesting as well.

Remarkably interesting indeed when we harken back to th NJA product prior to your breakthrough contract. Very much a recent thing. I'm pretty sure the NJA pilot group backed that brand into a corner big time. What would you and brokeflyer have said then to someone with your exact sentiments you've now directed at PCL?

 

[Flopgut]

Quit complaining and take pride in your work. That is your problem, you think the world owes you something.

As a captain id hope that you would know the condition of your plane reflects upon YOU. saying "it isnt my job" is exactly why you wouldnt make it at netjets.

I wish you would have come here, I would take pride in changing your life for the better.

How would you have like to heard this when your contract sucked and nothing was going your way? Especially to hear it from someone flush with money and QOL?

You an A teamer, or just full of crap?