NetJets vs. 121

[VVJM265]

I personally love the Netjets flying, but I had a friend leave and go back to 121 because seven days was too long on the road for him and it drove him crazy when his night before briefing was rarely what he did the next day. I think only something like 65% of the next day scedule ever holds up, plus it changes throughout the day.

old*art,

Those are both really lame excuses on his part. I sure hope your friend is happier.
:beer:
265

 

[Cavpilot]

I personally love the Netjets flying, but I had a friend leave and go back to 121 because seven days was too long on the road for him and it drove him crazy when his night before briefing was rarely what he did the next day. I think only something like 65% of the next day scedule ever holds up, plus it changes throughout the day.

As much as most of us love our jobs at NetJets, it is not for everyone. I, for one, think its great not knowing what tomorrow will bring. I'm in my seventh year here and have yet to get bored.

 

[skyward80]

Dude,
Not to be smarta$$ myself, but check it out:
http://www.netjets.com/NetJets_Fleet/NetJets_Fleet.asp
Best of luck,
265

The website splits up airplanes by cabin size, I thought he had specific fleets in mind.

 

[tbkane]

The company benefits are really good! I was one who did 121 at a couple of different companies and then went to NJ. I am not a NJ cool aid drinker. I didn't like the job. I hated seven day tours, changing lavs, throwing bags, catering to rich pompus a-holes. (I had one lady accuse me of not cleaning the airplane properly and leaving dog crap in the back but she had the only dog on board all week) It is a good job (just good) but it is not for everyone. Remember too that you will be an fo for a very long time and some of the captains are there because they couldn't get a job at 121 when times were good (if you catch my drift).

I for one like the predictabily of where I am going, an ILS all the time, and hotels ready for you. Also I like the fact that the schedule is predictable. Not dutying in at 1 am and flying all day and then dutying in at 5 am then noon etc... Also the schedulers will abuse you and make you sit for 12 hours a day regardless of what your doing just to get there "value" out of you so the overnights are just that overnights. No time to do much of anything.

 

[Abbey]

Everything said above, both the pros and cons, are true. It takes a little more effort to be a NetJets pilot. We definately do more than sit up in the cockpit reading the paper doing yet another turn to BUF. There are pilots on the list that did/could not get hired in the 121 world when they were hiring everyone. There are also some very fine pilots on the list as well. Same as anywhere else. The benefits are very good as is the guaranteed time off. Seven days free from duty every other week is pretty tough to beat.

I was at a regional for 6+ years and have zero intention of every flying 121 pax again. Everytime I airline to and from work I have my choice affirmed in numerous ways.

 

[VVJM265]

Originally Posted by VVJM265:
Dude,
Not to be smarta$$ myself, but check it out:
http://www.netjets.com/NetJets_Fleet/NetJets_Fleet.asp
Best of luck,
265

The website splits up airplanes by cabin size, I thought he had specific fleets in mind.

Ummmm, not sure what you mean by fleets, other than aircraft types; large cabin basically equates to large aircraft. Those are the airplanes we currently have "on property" and we just started getting the Encore Plus.

 

[Snaab]

Thank you all so much for the replies....I know some of the differences are apparent and others are more subtle b/w NJA and the 121 world. A lot of really good points (job security, different airports, good relationship w/ mgmt, etc.) were made, and they are something to seriously consider. One can see why there isn't much movement on the pilot seniority list at NJA- it's a great place to work! I appreciate the time many of you took to answer my questions!

-Snaab

 

[On Your Six]

The company benefits are really good! I was one who did 121 at a couple of different companies and then went to NJ. I am not a NJ cool aid drinker. I didn't like the job. I hated seven day tours, changing lavs, throwing bags, catering to rich pompus a-holes. (I had one lady accuse me of not cleaning the airplane properly and leaving dog crap in the back but she had the only dog on board all week) It is a good job (just good) but it is not for everyone. Remember too that you will be an fo for a very long time and some of the captains are there because they couldn't get a job at 121 when times were good (if you catch my drift).

I for one like the predictabily of where I am going, an ILS all the time, and hotels ready for you. Also I like the fact that the schedule is predictable. Not dutying in at 1 am and flying all day and then dutying in at 5 am then noon etc... Also the schedulers will abuse you and make you sit for 12 hours a day regardless of what your doing just to get there "value" out of you so the overnights are just that overnights. No time to do much of anything.

I fly Part 91 but I formerly flew for United and I found 121 flying very boring for this very reason - my flights were very predictable. However, I can understand how some pilots would prefer that - to each his own.

I would argue that the 7/7 schedule at Netjets is fairly predictable - you can plan the rest of your year so long as you know which 7-day periods you will be flying. Therefore, you have great scheduling visibility for vacations and home-life in general.

Tbkane, to be fair, you were also waiting for your call from Delta. It might be difficult to enjoy what you have when you are looking forward to being somewhere else. I think Netjets flying is completely different from 121 flying and everyone should understand that from the start. That said, I have a few friends there and they all enjoy the travel, schedule, fleet types, benefits, etc. Speaking with a lot of people before interviewing helps.

 

[tbkane]

I was not necessiarly waiting for DAL to call. When they did I had to do some soul searching to see what was best for my family and my career. Upgrade was still a long way off and I had the opportunity to make more money at a major than at NJ, also we had a hostile takeover form US Air to consider. So on you six you don't know me or my situation so please don't post what my opinions or my decisions are please. Each person has an opinion on what is best I posted mine and to each there own but don't try to slant my post.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I was the poster child for what NOT to do in the airlines. Worked for 3 of them. 2 of them are no longer... and the 3rd just got prison raped.

I was having my rumpt steak and pommes frites (steak and fries) last week in Geneva, watching the boats come and go... And that little feeling in my gut told me I wouldnt be doing this if I was at Southwest.

NetJets is a totally different kind of job compared to the airlines, its apples compared to snake meat.

You'll never see me dragging a travel pro and a jepps case in one hand with a McDonalds #1 in the other through CVG again!!!

Best of luck to you. Oh and if you have family that depends on you to take care of them.... You better start looking into NetJets.


Wolf