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NetJets Sues IRS Over $642.7M Tax Bill - Thanks OBAMA...

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Have you seen this? Is this old news? How might this impact pilot jobs at Netjets (and other fractionals) if they are forced to pay this tax bill? Can Netjets afford to pay this and keep pilot staffing as is?

How many of you guys will vote for Obama and his IRS-loving cronies again????? Let's all tax the rich because they can clearly afford it!!!! Who cares about the collateral damage (i.e., the pilots, mechanics, flight attendants, dispatchers, etc.). The fractional business and I assume the charter business (and private aviation in general) are under assault by this Administration. That's a fact... Read the blurb from AIN below:


NetJets Sues IRS Over $642.7M Tax Bill
Four of NetJets’ subsidiaries–NetJets Aviation, NetJets International, NetJets Large Aircraft and Executive Jet Management (EJM)–are suing the U.S. government over a $642.7 million IRS tax bill for past federal excise taxes (aka “ticket tax”) and assessed penalties and interest. In the lawsuit, filed on Monday, NetJets said, “The ticket tax was not intended to apply to private aircraft owners and the fees they pay to maintain and operate their aircraft.” Further, it alleges that the IRS is also attempting to “improperly collect the tax from [the NetJets subsidiaries] based on secondary liability, despite having failed to give EJM or the NetJets entities any advance notice that the IRS intended to apply the tax with respect to many of the fees at issue in this case.” NetJets maintains that the so-called “ticket tax” is not applicable to both monthly management and hourly fees the company charges its customers, citing IRS precedent and lack of any previous “clear guidance” from the agency regarding the specific types of fees included in the tax. “Unfortunately, the IRS position...is that all fees paid by the owners to the fractional managers are subject to the tax, whether the owners fly on their own airplane or not,” Jonathan Levy, legal director of Naples, Fla.-based aviation tax consulting firm Advocate Consulting, told AIN. “This is a hot legal issue and we will be watching the NetJets case closely.” Both NetJets and the IRS declined to comment on “pending litigation matters.”
 
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Have you seen this? Is this old news? How might this impact pilot jobs at Netjets (and other fractionals) if they are forced to pay this tax bill? Can Netjets afford to pay this and keep pilot staffing as is?

How many of you guys will vote for Obama and his IRS-loving cronies again????? Let's all tax the rich because they can clearly afford it!!!! Who cares about the collateral damage (i.e., the pilots, mechanics, flight attendants, dispatchers, etc.). The fractional business and I assume the charter business (and private aviation in general) are under assault by this Administration. That's a fact... Read the blurb from AIN below:


NetJets Sues IRS Over $642.7M Tax Bill
Four of NetJets’ subsidiaries–NetJets Aviation, NetJets International, NetJets Large Aircraft and Executive Jet Management (EJM)–are suing the U.S. government over a $642.7 million IRS tax bill for past federal excise taxes (aka “ticket tax”) and assessed penalties and interest. In the lawsuit, filed on Monday, NetJets said, “The ticket tax was not intended to apply to private aircraft owners and the fees they pay to maintain and operate their aircraft.” Further, it alleges that the IRS is also attempting to “improperly collect the tax from [the NetJets subsidiaries] based on secondary liability, despite having failed to give EJM or the NetJets entities any advance notice that the IRS intended to apply the tax with respect to many of the fees at issue in this case.” NetJets maintains that the so-called “ticket tax” is not applicable to both monthly management and hourly fees the company charges its customers, citing IRS precedent and lack of any previous “clear guidance” from the agency regarding the specific types of fees included in the tax. “Unfortunately, the IRS position...is that all fees paid by the owners to the fractional managers are subject to the tax, whether the owners fly on their own airplane or not,” Jonathan Levy, legal director of Naples, Fla.-based aviation tax consulting firm Advocate Consulting, told AIN. “This is a hot legal issue and we will be watching the NetJets case closely.” Both NetJets and the IRS declined to comment on “pending litigation matters.”

Another Obama Administration over-reach. That's ridiculous. It's clear Obama does not care for aviation. Nobody in this industry is safe.

Fun fact: did people know that our friends at the IRS will be hiring 14,000 new agents to manage the adoption of Obamacare (making sure everyone signs up and that employers are following the 2000+ new regulations)? I wonder what they are paying... :laugh::(:eek:
 
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This is for BACK PAYMENT plus interest...starting in 2003...I don't think Obama was in office then. Surely this group will be as hard on Bush attacking our industry as Obama. Bush was also trying to apply ADDITIONAL fees for GA usage of the ATC usage.
 
Going to a rubber chicken based economy would eliminate the tax too. Unfortunately both ideas are stupid.
 
This whole topic is proof that taxing the rich is bad for the economy and the middle class. I hope none of us lose our jobs because of this tax.

9-9-9 FairTax is the way to go to increase GDP 12% , create 6 million jobs, reverse the trade deficit, increase wages, and solve the unemployment problem we have today.

Eliminate 70,000 pages of tax code, thereby saving entire forests worth of trees and Ink.
 
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They all suck.
 

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