Netjets Large Aircraft

[Hawk Driver]

Netjets Large Aircraft Company (NJLA)

NJA has formed a new entity called the Netjets Large Aircraft Company (NJLA), dissolving its joint venture with Boeing and the BNJ program.

This doesn't come as any big surprise that the BNJ program, as we knew it, is gone but forming a new company to fly these planes and any others it adds to the certificate is worrysome...

Anyone heard anything on this?

HD

 

[bizjet737]

obiously i'm biased, but what's so worrisome about this? also, it's nothing new - we've been trying to get rid of boeing for a couple of years.

we got rid of a partner that we didn't need. bookings are up. cabin improvement program started for the bbj's - video-on-demand, new upholstery, more storage areas, etc.

121 cert will be done in april - first cset was this past tuesday - so things are on track. 121 will bring the opportunity for quite a bit more biz - especially in the charter / shuttle type market. if things continue as planned, could have an additional 4-8 large a/c (airliners) up and running next spring/summer.

 

[Hawk Driver]

What bothers me is that a new company was formed to fly these planes...

I don't doubt this will be a boon for Netjets, I just want to know that any subsequent planes will be crewed by NJA and not NJLA!

HD

 

[bizjet737]

it's all the same company just like it was with bnj, basically just a name change now. same seniority list as it was with bnj and everything. we didn't re-bid anything.

 

[Lord Wakefield]

it's all the same company just like it was with bnj, basically just a name change now. same seniority list as it was with bnj and everything. we didn't re-bid anything.

Our current scope language only deals with aircraft in the Quarter Share programme.

135/121 flying could go to EJM or another company.

This is not good news

 

[GVFlyer]

Our current scope language only deals with aircraft in the Quarter Share programme.

135/121 flying could go to EJM or another company.

This is not good news

What does that mean? NJI is a 135 company and you are saying that it should be merged with NJA. What's the difference in scope?

GV

 

[bizjet737]

Our current scope language only deals with aircraft in the Quarter Share programme.

135/121 flying could go to EJM or another company.

This is not good news

so what should we do with the quarter share customers we have and are flying? just sold another share in the bbj last month!
not sure what the big deal is here - nothing has changed except we dumped boeing as a partner from the existing 4yr old program. in doing that, we had to change the name - that's it - nothing else - same pilots, same planes, same seniority list.

 

[Hawkered]

It's time to stop being so paranoid. Any good business idea that involves a profitable outcome of using the BBJs when they are on our contract already, is good news.

 

[Lord Wakefield]

What does that mean? NJI is a 135 company and you are saying that it should be merged with NJA. What's the difference in scope?

GV

I think NJI does even less 135 flying than us, a reason for their different training curriculum. EJM is more like a traditional 135 operation.

How's this for a new name for BNJ: NJA ?

 

[psysicx]

How long does it take to upgrade to the right seat of the BBJ?

 

[bizjet737]

last f/o had about 9yrs seniority - junior bbj f/o seniority #160 approx.

 

[GVFlyer]

I think NJI does even less 135 flying than us, a reason for their different training curriculum. EJM is more like a traditional 135 operation.

Copy that. My sources tell me that NJI is currently training to 135 standards enroute to operating as 121 by 1 January.

GV

 

[Some guy]

NJI going 121??? I thought 121 was 17 or more pax? The G's only carry 13.

 

[NJIG4Driver]

Transition to 121 is in reference to the approved training program only. NJI is transitioning its current approved Part 135 training program over to a Part 121 training/checking program. This is allowed by regulation and will supposedly give us some more flexibility with what can be done with our training time. We'll be doing one training event and one checking event per year rather than the current twice per year training/checking session.

 

[Hawk Driver]

It's time to stop being so paranoid. Any good business idea that involves a profitable outcome of using the BBJs when they are on our contract already, is good news.

I don't disagree that this is a good note for "Netjets." Again, my point is this:

WHY DO WE NEED TO FORM A NEW COMPANY? Why can't these planes be flown under NJA instead of NJLA?

What is to stop the company from hiring outside pilots to crew planes other than the BBJ? From what the release states, bigger planes seem to be on their way...

HD