Netjets Interveiw

[guido411]

The people that brought us three years of negotiations are history, the TA was defeated by 82%. The new MEC was elected by 85% with 92% voting. There's a new sheriff in town and the membership is behind them.

Hope you're right, not trying to be one of the FLOPers that just want you guys to get more pay so we can ask for a raise too (those days are probably gone). We may make more money for now but I know everybody believes it to be sub-standard for the work we do across ALL the frax. Maybe some day it can become a respected profession and the people in the hotel van won't have to ask "What does fractional mean?"

 

[650 driver]

I bet Netjets would hire someone that declined, if they are hurting bad enough for warm bodies to keep seats filled.
At least if there is a mass exudus of pilots, during a strike they could go back to hiring street captains.

650

 

[Fracster]

"What does fractional mean?"

I tell them its just another crappy company who is trying to make a buck at the expense of their employees.

As for the new MEC we hope so too. Things are definately changing. The union is actually fighting back against the company. Something DV and his arse hole buddies never did.

We actually have comittees that do something....imagine that. Seriously though, these guys are well organized. It usually takes over a year to seperate from a local and we will have done it in a matter of a short few months. There is progress. The media campaigns will start soon if the company refuses to play ball.

You see, the company had the old MEC in its pocket. With the new MEC the company is refusing to pull the negotiating committee of line so that it can come to CMH to negotiate. The old MEC was put on the flex, given endless extended days in order to negotiate.

The company is angered, no doubt about it. They dont want to negotiate they want to dominate. The old MEC chairman said "we dont want to make the company mad" when talking about strike votes or informational picketing. Hows that for a nutless wonder. The new MEC has taken a standpoint of what ever is necessary to get the contract we have earned.

It will probably get worse before getting better but the new MEC chairman said it will all be over in 5 months. Either way it will all be over. Im not exactly sure what he means but I cant wait to find out.

In the end go to the interview, eat the free food, take the tour and get the job. Dont take the job but rather put off the class dates until you are absolutely, positively sure you cannot find another job. Then, welcome aboard.

 

[RogerMOSA]

Let's say a proby walked out with the rest and got canned. How does the cost of the type and the 2-yr obligation play into this situation.

Just interested....the app is still in the desk drawer and waiting to see how things play out.

RM

 

[x402]

I'd say you just got a type for free and they waive the 2 yr repayment if you get fired.

 

[Fracster]

This one I am not sure.

Its my understanding that if you are terminated you are no longer required to pay back the training contract.

Also, given the experience of the MEC I can almost assure you that anyone on probation will not be asked, required or punished for taking/not taking part in any work actions legal or otherwise.

Send the app in, do the interview and then delay any class dates. Like I said, its better to have the extra opportunity just in case.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Why in the hell would anyone want to hire into THIS mess ? Sadomasochists !

 

[skyaddict]

Because that's how bad regional QOL is, at least if you're a commuter.

 

[Fracster]

Ok, here I come as the unlikely voice of reason.

Lets face it, we get a call from "the evil empire" the night before(no more calls with 91K) and I show 2 hours early for the airline. I print my ticket the night before and make the most of my drive to the airport. I clear "security" and make my way to starbucks. I greet the ladies at the counter with a smile and request my favorite cup of tea. Occasionaly I will walk on the wild side and have a latte.
I pay for my beverage and make my way to the gate. I rest comfortably sipping my hot beverage and reading a periodical knowing full well I am in the premier, elite, or whatever they call it this week, group so I board first.
Most of the time I am in uniform and devilishly handsome at that so the F/A greets me with a smile and offers me a bottle of water. I accept and now I am set. That my friends is commuting for the typical NJA pilot. (I cant guarantee the handsome part)

On my last day it is typicaly the same except the wild side of me comes out and I sometimes go in civies. Yes, thats right, after my last leg I will don the last day outfight of jeans and a shirt with a comfortable pair of shoes and blend in with the masses. Upon reaching the gate at my home apt. I call the fbo shuttle for a ride back to my car. I tip my friendly van driver, use the facililty and then I am off to the highway and my peaceful journey home.

This is commuting for an NJA pilot. I live within an hour of my gateway so my drive, though longer than I would like, is a straight shot.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

you guys airline first class?

I didnt think NJA would be so generous...

 

[Fracster]

We do on occasion but due to our frequent airlining we build up points rather fast. If not first class then we still get on after the first class people. All I care about is my bag. I refuse to check it so I dont like scrounging for space. That and I have a 27".

 

[skyaddict]

How much bag room is there for crew bags on a Citation after you load all those 'real jobs' new money VIPs bags on board, anyway?

 

[FracCapt]

Also, given the experience of the MEC I can almost assure you that anyone on probation will not be asked, required or punished for taking/not taking part in any work actions legal or otherwise.

The way I look at it....if you hire into something like this, and don't strike when the decision is made....you are a (insert dreaded 4 letter word here).....probation or not. You sure can't say "I didn't know".

 

[FracCapt]

How much bag room is there for crew bags on a Citation after you load all those 'real jobs' new money VIPs bags on board, anyway?

Crew bags first. If all the pax bags don't fit after that, ship 'em. You don't leave crew baggage behind.

 

[JetProp]

Where exactly is the 5 year upgrade estimate coming from?

I've been here 2-1/2 years and I'm still about 300 numbers from the most junior captain (based on recent awards). It took that amount of time to move up 300 numbers from the bottom. So, I guess another 2-1/2 years to move up 300 more numbers to become a junior captain.