NetJets International Interview

[dsptchrnja]

Were the pilots in the 50 percentile pre-union?

Irrelevent. You are negotiating with today's leadership, not yesterday's.

I only hope we have your support Dsptchr.

You certainly have my support for a raise. There is a proposal on the table for a 23%-40% increase in pay - I support you voting yes and get this thing over with.

 

[El Chupacabra]

There is a proposal on the table for a 23%-40% increase in pay - I support you voting yes and get this thing over with.

That won't happen. There won't even be a vote.... The proposal is DOA.

 

[dsptchrnja]

That won't happen. There won't even be a vote.... The proposal is DOA.

Unfortunate. Then I guess it is time for the nay-sayers to move on. It's hard to believe you're going to see much better than that.

 

[smartestwife]

dispatcher

There is nothing to vote on. The union has to approve and present to the members to begin with. There is more to it than just the salary money-

 

[Hogprint]

Irrelevent. You are negotiating with today's leadership, not yesterday's.

Ok dsptchr, using that logic then judge us on what we are doing under this leadership. Good, bad or indifferent. Most of the anti-union screed on this board sites examples under former leadership (with the exception of a couple).

What you are witnessing now is a union with some moxie. It is glaringly obvious when you sit back and compare the two. Believe me, we want this over also.




On another note....h25b,

Most of the corporate guys I have talked to on the road have been very supportive of our efforts. If any were not, then they didn't let on about it. I have gone out of my way over the last few months to get a feel for how this situation is perceived out in the FBOs. I always thought of this as an in-house issue, but lots of folks are paying attention.

Thanks for the "keep your heads up" it has meant a lot to many of us. To all who support our efforts a heart felt thank you.

 

[AA717driver]

I don't know of too many people who aren't supportive of NJA getting a much improved contract.

My criticisim all along has centered on the drive to force NJI into the union and the ill-advised labelling of 135 pilots as SCABS.

Some of my other comments about trusting your union too much or expecting too much from the process come from my personal experience and is offered so you don't go through the disillusionment and anger I experienced.TC

 

[bertengineer]

NJA Teamsters

It's a sorry bunch of pilots who try to better their own positions at the cost of other pilots. They're only your brothers if they pay dues to the Teamsters local, right? Calling guys in 135 companies that are only doing their job SCABs and trying to steal what the NJI pilots have worked hard to get is beneath contempt, as is trying to intimidate the pilots at NJA into towing the union line. It's all just typical union thuggery.

 

[dsptchrnja]

Ok dsptchr, using that logic then judge us on what we are doing under this leadership. Good, bad or indifferent.

Fair enough. Let's see... as a direct result under your new leadership would you say you are happier, contented, more satisfied, than the non-union NJI/EJM? Paid as well? QOL same or better? The only difference I see between this leadership and the last is higher hopes. If those hopes materialize than you will have the right to say "I told you so". To be fair I guess we'll have to give it another year. Two... Three? If this union leadership doesn't come through are you going to be willing to start seeing the union as part of the problem?

 

[Live4flyng]

Fair enough. Let's see... as a direct result under your new leadership would you say you are happier, contented, more satisfied, than the non-union NJI/EJM? Paid as well? QOL same or better? The only difference I see between this leadership and the last is higher hopes. If those hopes materialize than you will have the right to say "I told you so". To be fair I guess we'll have to give it another year. Two... Three? If this union leadership doesn't come through are you going to be willing to start seeing the union as part of the problem?

You better hope it doesn't take three more years. At this pace, the company won't be in business.

 

[Live4flyng]

It's a sorry bunch of pilots who try to better their own positions at the cost of other pilots. They're only your brothers if they pay dues to the Teamsters local, right? Calling guys in 135 companies that are only doing their job SCABs and trying to steal what the NJI pilots have worked hard to get is beneath contempt, as is trying to intimidate the pilots at NJA into towing the union line. It's all just typical union thuggery.

Hey Junior, you have no idea what you are talking about.