Netjets - Does a Second Officer Have A Chance

[Guitar Guy]

There will be upgrades but it will depend on seniority. A guess-timate for someone starting class today might be about 4 years, maybe more, for upgrade. Certainly growth, retirements and other factors affect your actual time to upgrade. NetJets seems to run about a 60/40 ratio of PIC's to SIC's, so that helps to a degree. In the latest upgrade award for the Encore, the junior awards were pilots who'd been here right around the 2-year mark.

Of course, as always, "your mileage may vary".

 

[Twotter76]

Something else to consider is that of late most of the vacancies have been for more senior aircraft (Soverign, XL/S, X) and the Ultra PICs have been bidding out of that fleet en masse which is lengthing the upgrade for us lowly SICs. I would never advocate that someone is not entitled to a position that their seniority can hold but it does suck for those of us stuck on SIC pay. And dont tell me how someone leaving the Ultra fleet creates an Captain slot that needs to be filled - I challenge anyone to prouduce an Ultra (Not Encore) PIC bid in the last year. As people have been bidding out the aircraft have been getting sold off. The two junior fleets (400&Encore) have a combined 30 something aircraft so there just arent that many slots. Don't plan on a two year upgrade - it just aint gonna happen. Its still good here as an SIC though...

 

[Guitar rocker]

I know Hap really got me on that one. You know what they say though those who make jokes about it are really trying to cover up for their own shortcomings.

I'm sure next he'll be talking about more revelent subjects like the 1940's and flying the sopwith camel.

Actually, if yah dont mind I'd like to talk about when I flew the Messerschmit ME-109 and other various Junkers as well seeing that yah brough that up.

Diesel needs pills! Ha aha ahaaa....thats funny DO-82!

 

[DO-82 driver]

Rocker.....

Those ME-109 and Junkers must have been on the Non-Union side of the fence....The Union side had Dorniers!!!!!

Those were some fun days......

 

[Diesel]

You ever seen a Dornier in a roll? I have.

 

[Flip]

Diesel you are an idiot.

 

[Diesel]

Yeah but a good looking one.

Enjoy the commuter.

And by that I mean the 150 you have listed in your profile.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

As on observer, I would like to add how do we know there will be realistic upgrades at NetJets? 2500 pilots now, with their projected hiring how likely is it someone would go over and sit 6 years as an FO?

The Answer: Nobody really knows.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Diesel.....you were there for that show?

I guess I'll have to add another person to "receive a check" list.

I have the picture a mutual friend send me....classic

 

[IRELAND]

Hey Diesel- I've been seeing your posts on this and other threads. It sounds like you are a 12 year old retarded kid. People are asking smart and perfectly reasonable questions, so if you have nothing smart to say, just stay home and watch Spongebob. This board is for mature people. Have a nice day.