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[El Chupacabra]

You can't name a place on Earth where the people aren't better off because of the involvement of the US government or businesses or private groups that outreach.

If you are a godless marxist you might not be happy about it. Then stay away from the big brass belt buckle of the Bible Belt -- Dallas Texas.

The one thing that pisses me off about unions is the support for liberal democrats.

 

[semperfido]

The one thing that pisses me off about unions is the support for liberal democrats.

 

[Remington]

Check out FlowerMound or Rockwall. Both nice and growing places.
Best Mex in Ft. Worth - Mi Cocina
Texas is definatly the best country in the world and if you dont like it, hit the road and pick up a big ole' bag of F^&k Ya'll on the way out.

 

[cosmotheassman]

Then stay away from the big brass belt buckle of the Bible Belt -- Dallas Texas.

Isn't it ironic that the bible belt is in the same exact spot as tornado alley? It's a comforting convenience for me!

 

[El Chupacabra]

Every once in a while we need to sweep out the trash.

 

[flydaddy0499]

La Hacienda on 114 in Grapevine is the best Buffalo Burger in town. I used to office at Business Jet Center @ DAL. Also, Celebration on Lovers Lane is the best lunch spot around DAL; all fresh food and a very unique atmosphere.

We bought (and still own) a house in Keller. The drive to DAL/DFW area was a chore with traffic. I would definitely recommend Grapevine. If we ever move back to Dallas, that's where I would buy. We leased a very nice apartment in Euless when we first arrived. It was very convenient to all things Dallas and Fort Worth. Please do yourself a favor and frequent Cattlemen's and the Lonsome Dove in the stockyards.

For quick and nasty fast food, one would be hard-pressed to best a local Chicken Express. You can get a big meal with a barrel of sweet tea for $5.00.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

Please get your Marxist rhetoric right if you're going to spout it! It was the United Fruit Company that had extensive holdings in Latin America and oppressed the people. Clay Shaw of that company also had JFK shot, too, right? Coca-Cola is supposed to be symbolic of our exportable culture which overwhelms indigenous cultures throughout the world. What do you think Coca-Cola grows there - cocaine for their Coke? Coke buys guarare for their Sobe and Rockstar brands from Brazil. Other than that all they have is bottling plants in Latin America. But wait! There's a popular leftist rant that Coke hires union busting thugs to murder those who try to organize their plant in Columbia. You could pick that for a cause. You also forgot to point out that the US Army's School of the America's is somehow responsible for all of Latin America's woes.




Wrong again. In Honduras the US has legal military bases in Soto Cano and Palmerola. Congress has to fund military bases. Honduras, by the way, is a Democratic Constitutional Republic. I think popularly elected President Ricardo Madura is doing a bang-up job in ensuring civil rights, improving the standard of living and growing the economy in one of the poorist and least developed countries in Latin America.

We, the US, did a bang-up job in humanitarian hurricane relief in Honduras in 1998.

The war in Latin America most certainly was about communism and communism was thouroughly rejected by the people. In El Salvador, Alfredo Cristiani did a great job getting his country through the civil war with the communists and in free elections following the war Francisco Flores beat FMLN guerilla candidate Facundo Guardado. The Frente Farabundo Marti para la Liberacion Nacional, by the way, is the only political party that has ever shot at me. Arena candidate Tony Saca is now heading the El Salvadoran Government.

In Nicaragua, the communists were again soundly defeated when Violetta Barrios de Chamorro trounced Sandanista candidate Daniel Ortega in Managua in 1990.

To all three nations, the US is a valued trading partner - we buy nearly 70% of what they produce.

GV







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You asked about the phrase refering to Coca Cola. There was nothing about the United Fruit Company or Chevron's pipeline (of which I'm well aware) in your question. By the way, Coca Cola had holdings in sugar cane and other crops.

Oh yeah, the School of the Americas was good for Central America? Ha! It was good for the wealthy ruling class and the gentlemen that assasinated the loud mouth Archbishop Romero (yes, trained at SA), and the Contra death squads (trained @ SA). Yeah right, the S.A. has a golden halo around its' head.

Of course the US bases in Honduras are legal. However, the direct support of their military to cross the so called borders to fight the FMLN and Sandinistas was completely illegal. That has been well documented after documents were declassified in the early 90's...or did you conveniently forget that too?

The war in Central America having anything to do with communism is quite the sophomoric view. It was about resources and trade hands down. Of course the right wing would like you to believe otherwise. If you take a moment to put down your Kool Aid and learn something about the history of Cornelius Vanderbilt and William Walker, you might understand.

Something else you conveniently omitted. The Sandinistas maintained control of the legislature, judiciary, and military in Nicaragua through most of the 90's. The legislature also has more influence than the president...less so than the president does in the US.

The FMLN shot at you? Perhaps you shouldn't have been there.

It is quite apprent that your original question was loaded and was bait so that you can regurgitate your drivel.

My views are based on the study of Central American history as well as first hand interaction with the working people of Central America. Please understand if I put more stock in their word as opposed to the empty words of a brainwashed imperialist idealogue.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

You can't name a place on Earth where the people aren't better off because of the involvement of the US government or businesses or private groups that outreach.

If you are a godless marxist you might not be happy about it. Then stay away from the big brass belt buckle of the Bible Belt -- Dallas Texas.

The one thing that pisses me off about unions is the support for liberal democrats.

ahem, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, as in destabilazing the region to which to Pol Pots can fester? Somalia, Iraq, on and on??

Oh yeah right, these places are better off.


Central America is better off because the people regained power with no help from our illegal war.

 

[El Chupacabra]

yes they are better off because of us. But worse off because of our enemies and their resistance.

Can you imagine how much better off Viet Nam would be if they had turned away from Communism and became a friend of the US?

Iraq is infinitely better off but a work in progress. They are free aren't they?

BTW... Today is a very Special day.

July 6 is the birthday of President George W. Bush.
To celebrate Go Here Now

 

[BornAgainPagan]

yes they are better off because of us. But worse off because of our enemies and their resistance.

Can you imagine how much better off Viet Nam would be if they had turned away from Communism and became a friend of the US?

Iraq is infinitely better off but a work in progress. They are free aren't they?

BTW... Today is a very Special day.

July 6 is the birthday of President George W. Bush.
To celebrate Go Here Now

actually Vietnam is doing quite well and they're still quite communist. Remember, we lost that war...or did you not get the memo?

Iraq better off? Tell that to the victims of "collateral damage". We'll see.

Oh yeah, North Korea is better off too. got it.

 

[Some Dude]

Texas isn't bad for a third world country. Austin is great and San Antonio is ok. I just don't get why all the white people down there just let all the illegals walk across the border. Stop hunting armadillos and seal the border. School system is one of the worst in the nation unless you speak spanish. The Republicans like to hire all the illegals for their businesses. Heck somebody gives them all those jobs. The liberals don't create jobs so who the heck hires all of them? Heck you can't even order a dang big mac in english. Yo quiero uno mac grande por favor.

 

[CoolHands]

Texas!!!

Texas is definatly the best country in the world and if you dont like it, hit the road and pick up a big ole' bag of F^&k Ya'll on the way out.

LOL, truer words have never been spoken . I currently reside in Euless and fly out of ADS. Like most people have said, I would look more toward the Fort Worth side of town. The Grapevine/Colleyville/Southlake area is really nice and the traffic is definetly not as bad as Frisco. Good luck with your choice!

 

[aeronautic1]

One Word

WHATABURGER !! They're HUGE!! But your farts will keep you awake most of the night.

 

[El Chupacabra]

actually Vietnam is doing quite well and they're still quite communist. Remember, we lost that war...or did you not get the memo?

Iraq better off? Tell that to the victims of "collateral damage". We'll see.

Oh yeah, North Korea is better off too. got it.

Viet Nam doing well.... How good would they be going if they had normal relations with the US?

Iraq.... yes better off. Its the influence of the foreign terrorists that are hurting them now.

North Korea. Great example. look at South Korea. Thats how they would be prospering if they would just see the light.


I got a question for you. If we suck so much... tell me where its better. Then move there.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

Viet Nam doing well.... How good would they be going if they had normal relations with the US?

Iraq.... yes better off. Its the influence of the foreign terrorists that are hurting them now.

North Korea. Great example. look at South Korea. Thats how they would be prospering if they would just see the light.


I got a question for you. If we suck so much... tell me where its better. Then move there.

When did I say that "we suck"? Why don't you move to where citizens don't scrutinize the actions of our gov't?

 

[GVFlyer]

Oh yeah, the School of the Americas was good for Central America? Ha! It was good for the wealthy ruling class and the gentlemen that assasinated the loud mouth Archbishop Romero (yes, trained at SA), and the Contra death squads (trained @ SA). Yeah right, the S.A. has a golden halo around its' head.

The mission of the School of the Americas was to provide doctrinally sound relevant military education and training to the nations of Latin America while promoting democratic values and respect for human rights, and fostering cooperation among the multinational military forces. Even if your claim that the person who terminated Archbishop Romero had attended SOA was valid, it would be like proclaiming USC is evil because O.J. went there.

Of course the US bases in Honduras are legal. However, the direct support of their military to cross the so called borders to fight the FMLN and Sandinistas was completely illegal. That has been well documented after documents were declassified in the early 90's...or did you conveniently forget that too?

I suspect that by "illegal" you mean not authorized by Congress. It is not the purview of the US Congress to dictate the actions of the Honduran military.

The war in Central America having anything to do with communism is quite the sophomoric view. It was about resources and trade hands down. Of course the right wing would like you to believe otherwise.

It is a typical tactic of the left to try to assign an economic motive to every altruistic action that they don't understand. They don't understand these actions because, in large part, they generally lead a life serving nothing larger than themselves and certainly wouldn't put themselves at risk for anything more dangerous than a caustic comment resulting from their rhetorical contribution to the cause which, they feel, is, "doing something." It's not.

The communist guerillas in Latin America are about nothing more than savagery, power, and control of the population. The people have clearly shown that they do not want to be controlled or victimized by the communists.

If you take a moment to put down your Kool Aid and learn something about the history of Cornelius Vanderbilt and William Walker, you might understand.

If Vanderbilt has a legacy in the 21st Century, it's that he created a port system that allows these states to get their goods to market. But, oh wait! He was a capitalist and therefore inherently evil.

The FMLN shot at you? Perhaps you shouldn't have been there.

It's okay. I shot back somewhat more effectively.

It seems that if you have the strength of the beliefs you profess here, we may have exchanged a few rounds as well when you were acting as a dupe of the Sandinista's, the FMLN, Sendero Rojas or Sendero Luminoso. Or are did you just back them with your mouth?

I just saw where one of your colleagues, Lori Berenson, is going to be released from prison in Peru in 2015. The Peruvians don't like communist sympathizers either.

It is quite apprent that your original question was loaded and was bait so that you can regurgitate your drivel.

No, your asinine tag line denigrating our nation by implication angered me not withstanding the fact that I've lost friends who died fighting communists in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Peru. These were good guys training and working with and along side the indigenous people. Your assertion that they died trying to create a market for Coke is insulting to their memory and to me personally.

My views are based on the study of Central American history as well as first hand interaction with the working people of Central America. Please understand if I put more stock in their word as opposed to the empty words of a brainwashed imperialist idealogue.

I'm not smart enough to be an imperialist ideologue (Maoist as well as Marxian dialectic, impressive), just barely smart enough to perform my military mission, but we were just competent enough to capture Abimael Guzman where he was hiding in a little house on the outskirts of Lima and give him to Alberto Fujimora. And my succesors are just smart enough to insure that there are free elections in every Latin American country where we have a presence.

GV





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[Semore Butts]

Ummmmm?????

So Pagan,

You know all this stuff cause you read books and watch TV?

How many of these places are you talking about have you been too?

Just wondering?

I didn't hear any commentary on Bosnia?

The way I saw it, them Iraqi kids were liking clean water and going to school.

Collateral damage? Thats when we bomb something by misake right?

Well, what is it called when the insurgents blow up a bunch of civillians?

I wasn't keeping count, but it really seems that they were way ahead of us in that department.

I was more in the lane where GV was.

I agree with his point of view as well, but I'm glad that you are free to promote your point of view.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

The mission of the School of the Americas was to provide doctrinally sound relevant military education and training to the nations of Latin America while promoting democratic values and respect for human rights, and fostering cooperation among the multinational military forces. Even if your claim that the person who terminated Archbishop Romero had attended SOA was valid, it would be like proclaiming USC is evil because O.J. went there.

sounds just like the ad, ostensibly nice and neat

I suspect that by "illegal" you mean not authorized by Congress. It is not the purview of the US Congress to dictate the actions of the Honduran military.

as far as we know, we're okay since we don't really "know about" nor do we dictate the actions of their military (while nudging each other in the ribs)

It is a typical tactic of the left to try to assign an economic motive to every altruistic action that they don't understand. They don't understand these actions because, in large part, they generally lead a life serving nothing larger than themselves and certainly wouldn't put themselves at risk for anything more dangerous than a caustic comment resulting from their rhetorical contribution to the cause which, they feel, is, "doing something." It's not.

The communist guerillas in Latin America are about nothing more than savagery, power, and control of the population. The people have clearly shown that they do not want to be controlled or victimized by the communists.

Loaded and incorrect statement. Dissidents (yes, even the unarmed ones) were victimized by US funded and trained Contra death squads. Many of which trained at, guess where? School of the Americas!

Why did the Sandinistas (so-called communists) maintain the majority in the legislature, judiciary and military in the 90's?

If Vanderbilt has a legacy in the 21st Century, it's that he created a port system that allows these states to get their goods to market. But, oh wait! He was a capitalist and therefore inherently evil.

You can filter and edit the history of Vanderbilt to fit your agenda all you want. Sterilizing it doesn't change history.

I too am a capitalist so why would I think that capitalism is inherently evil. Laissez faire capitalism evil? Definitely. Just like communism in its' extreme form. I just believe in well regulated capitalism...moreso than you..apparently

It's okay. I shot back somewhat more effectively.

It seems that if you have the strength of the beliefs you profess here, we may have exchanged a few rounds as well when you were acting as a dupe of the Sandinista's , the FMLM, Sendero Rojas or Sendero Luminoso. Or are did you just back them with your mouth?

I just saw where one of your colleagues, Lori Berenson, is going to be released from prison in Peru in 2015.

Never picked up a fire arm (not even a box of ammo) while living there and I don't know Lori. Did I even hint at being in Peru? (you sure do like baseless assumptions) (in case it wasn't a typo, that is FMLN)

I think that you were duped by your Commander and Chief.

No, your asinine tag line denigrating our nation by implication angered me not withstanding the fact that I've lost friends who died fighting communists in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Peru. These were good guys training and working with and along side the indigenous people. Your assertion that they died trying to create a market for Coke is insulting to their memory and to me personally

My tag line is simply a direct quote with which I agree due to my experiences.

I too lost a friends, good guys, that were indigenous people, that died fighting the Contras. Sorry about your buddies but, them not knowing the real reasons for their occupation in C. America wasn't their fault. Reference all of the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that openly state not knowing why they're there or feel their presence is not justified....my brother included.

I'm not smart enough to be an imperialist ideologue (Maoist as well as Marxian dialectic, impressive), just barely smart enough to perform my military mission, but we were just competent enough to capture Abimael Guzman where he was hiding in a little house on the outskirts of Lima and give him to Alberto Fujimora. And my succesors are just smart enough to insure that there are free elections in every Latin American country where we have a presence.

Au contraire. I think you are more than smart enough to know your ideology.

I'm not convinced that all of the progress comes from your successors.

 

[Hogprint]

Pagan said:

Reference all of the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that openly state not knowing why they're there or feel their presence is not justified....my brother included.

Did your brother or "all the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan" volunteer or were they drafted?

If they don't know why they are there, then they have their heads buried in the sand or collectively up their arses.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I gotta admit I questioned just about everything the Clintonistas did.

Collateral damage.... Libs don't worry about the millions killed in abortion mills every year. And our Rich Uncle donates millions to promote it.