Netjets Casino employees

[x402]

If you're implying that no layoffs was due to Santulli's generosity, you've got to be kidding. Business absolutely boomed at EJA following 9/11. They needed more employees, not less.

You obviously weren't working there at the time, or you're on a different planet. I think even the hardcores will agree that Santulli showed a lot of class when he could have, and probably should have furloughed people.

Whatever, I'm sure there's no argument that the next time the economy takes a dive he won't be in that kind of mood when it comes to the IBT.

They accomplished everything they needed by not hiring, with the attrition in the pilot group. In fact they were late in firing up the hiring to take care of 91k,Ooooops. If they though furloughs were needed, believe me, they wouldn't think twice. No matter what they say at the Big Events downstairs.

 

[Some Dude]

Fred you don't know crap about NJA or anything about our sales after 9/11. Business was booming for us. Some guys total lack of any real knowledge about NJA is freaking amazing. Why do some cornholes even try to give comments on NJA which they know nothing about NJA? Must be alot of management moles lurking here.

 

[FredGarvin]

They accomplished everything they needed by not hiring, with the attrition in the pilot group.

I don't know the numbers but I really doubt there was a whole lot of attrition during the year following 9/11. There was no place to go!

I guess we can disagree, all I know is he kept the promise he made at the "big event", whatever his motivation. He could have let a lot of non-pilots go as well and I don't think there would have been any bad PR with FLEX or FLOPS over that. You don't have to be, but my family and I are grateful for it.

 

[FredGarvin]

Dude,

Even Disel and Grizz agree that we were long during that period and I worked it, so I know what I'm talking about. Are you another one of those bitter new guys?


Why do some cornholes even try to give comments on NJA which they know nothing about NJA? Must be alot of management moles lurking here.

OK,.........Union Toadie......there that was mature.

 

[x402]

Been here for the whole thing. Do you think Grizz and Diesel walk on water? It was cheaper to keep us around than retrain or lose pilots. Do you think guys making 27k were coming back after they were 'furloughed.' They weren't going to lay off the BBJ guys it would have been new FO's making food stamp money, wouldn't have made any sense,

 

[Diesel]

I'll explain it again. We might have been fat for a very short time. It was so short that it wasn't worth it to furlough because they would have to retrain and repay. Not going to happen plus the PR is horrible.

Family guy are you even a pilot here? Are you even a pilot?

Hey I do enjoy all the non pilots, and 500hr wonders working up in the casino that thinks they can do what we do. Ha. When they get 2500hrs they will realize that it's not all about flying a jet. It's about providing for your family.

So keep posting on this board. Accept the fact your opinion doesn't mean shizzle. Poke at the teamsters all you want which is fine. I pay my dues to make the company play by the rules which we call a contract.

 

[Some Dude]

Fred I've been here a loooong time. Longer than most employees. Our business was booming. Again why do you post here when you don't know crap? I won't be posting on the regoinal site cause I don't know crap about the commuters. Sorry but that's the truth.

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

. Are you another one of those bitter new guys?

Once again, my dear Freddie, dont go there..... I ain't bitter, I am new, and you are sounding more and more uninformed by the minute. While a bunch of us may be new.....we've been around. Dont treat us like newly minted ATP time building wannabes..... it is not that game here.

There are places, like the airline I just left after 7+ years of anal rape, that suck worse than here. At NetJets, at least I am represented by a union and peers who have a BACKBONE... and stand up for what we are worth. Once again, sorry if you feel like you are in the crosshairs. Nothing personal, teammate.....

 

[transpac]

I was there for the whole deal and remember flying my butt off during the months following 9/11. The word I got was that business picked up in the short term for all fractionals because of security fears and hassles associated with airline travel after that event. This info was publicized in statements by EJA management officials to the aviation press. The boom leveled off after a few months, but the drastic slowdown that affected most of aviation never materialized. Compare today's NJA pilot numbers (approx 2100) to the numbers onboard on 9/11 (approx 1250) and it will be obvious that there has been no sustained downturn.

 

[FredGarvin]

Dude,
Last word on the issue (at least from my end). I've lurked on this board for a couple of years but never posted. I saw a thread named "Netjets Casino Employees". The very first line on this thread was "Netjets pilots are not your enemys." I decided to register and give my thoughts since it seemed there was some honest attempt at dialogue. I don't see the issue same as you, so what? My attitude has always been that I too want this thing settled ASAP. I've been here long enough to see that my 3% and 4% raises aren't getting any better anytime soon until management knows the cost of labor for the next 3 or 4 years. What worries me and alot of my "puzzel palace" cohorts is that perfect or not this is a pretty good gig for alot of people and some of the idiots with the STMFD attitude could screw it up for everybody. I've known alot of flight crews over the years and I always thought despite the IBT swagger, most guys saw this as not the best job, but a stable place you could hang your hat not worry about finding a new job every 5 years. It would appear that those voices aren't being heard, or those guys no longer exist. You deserve more, I hope you get it, soon. I also hope that alot of the BS goes away when the thing is signed (I fear it won't). OK, flame on......