Neil Boortz, Dumb'r 'na bag of hammers

[blzr]

We need to sick the General on.......

Thursday -- April 13, 2006
DELTA STRIKE

Scott G. Winterton, Deseret Morning NewsThe Delta UNION pilots are really ratcheting up their talk of a strike. Several weeks ago I honestly thought that these pilots, though they are union members, wouldn't actually go ahead with this absurd plan. There is precedence. Eastern Airlines pilots walked off the job with the expressed intent to destroy their employer. The Delta pilots may do the same.
Ever since I've lived in Atlanta there has been talk of the "Delta Family." OK, fine. Let's use that analogy. Now we have a huge family disagreement, a bitter and divisive fight between husband and wife. If you're married, and all of a sudden you just find that you can't live with your wife (or husband) any more, what do you do? You get a divorce! You leave! You pack your stuff and you get the hell out! If you have any jointly-owned property you'll try to get your share, but the first job is to empty your drawers an closets and get out! So --- the Delta pilots don't like the way they're being treated. That's too bad. They have, in fact, made some pretty massive wage concessions, just as husbands or wives will make concessions to restore domestic tranquility. In this case the concessions don't seem to be enough. So .... leave! If you job (wife) is so dissatisfying to you --- quit! You walk away and try to find someone else who will treat you better.
Now ... things are pretty much the same for older husbands as they are for older pilots. It's tough to walk away from a marriage of many years. After all, when you're out there in the dating market as an older man there just aren't as many options available to you as there were when you were, say, in your 20s or 30s and could parade your flat belly in front of the available women. Well ... that's the choice you make. You can stay with the wife, even though the relationship wasn't what it was, or you can go see how you make out in the crowded single's bars.
So --- what are the Delta pilots considering? They're talking murder-suicide. They don't like the way they're being treated by their wife (company), so their solution is just to kill her. It's the old "If I cain't have her nobody can have her" routine. Instead of just walking away from the woman you think has wronged you, and perhaps trying to get some of your stuff back through a legal action, you just kill her. That'll teach her for treating you this way, won't it! Of course you won't have any job at all (career suicide) at that point, but you've shown her, haven't you! She'll never treat anyone that way again, will she?
Delta Airlines is struggling to survive. Sure, there have been management mistakes. One of those mistakes was making the Delta pilots the highest-paid in the industry for so many years. Is murder the answer?
One of the most ridiculous aspects of the Delta pilot's action was a huge sign they had erected outside of Delta headquarters yesterday. The sign read "Bankruptcy profiteering." Profiteering? Delta hasn't made a profit in how long now? Years? And the Delta pilots are erecting signs about bankruptcy profiteering? Oh yeah, they're in touch.
OH YEAH .... LET'S KEEP THE

 

[blzr]

The sign read "Bankruptcy profiteering." Profiteering? Delta hasn't made a profit in how long now? Years? And the Delta pilots are erecting signs about bankruptcy profiteering? Oh yeah, they're in touch.

I believe the sign meant that Management was profiteering off of bk.

 

[Ty Webb]

The scary thing about having some industry knowlege is that once you read things written about your industry . . . . you quickly realize how wrong they got your industry, and then you realize how wrong they probably are about everything else, too.

Radio Schlocks like him are in radio because they are too fat and sloppy to make it on T.V.


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[AirBadger]

I hate nothing more than reading an analogy 3 paragraphs long.

 

[JohnnyP]

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I dont think he's an idiot at all, but he is in the business of getting people fired up. He does a great job at it. I dont agree with everything he says on his show/website, but he does make good points on many of his topics of debate (i.e welfare, public schools, the "peaceful" religion of islam, etc).

 

[NuGuy]

The scary thing about having some industry knowlege is that once you read things written about your industry . . . . you quickly realize how wrong they got your industry, and then you realize how wrong they probably are about everything else, too.
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Heyas Ty,

Yup. Makes you wonder. I've got experience in avaition AND another industry, and they get everything about that wrong too.

I'd have to say that most of the press is 99.9% chock-full-o-sh!t. The 0.01% of the time they get something right, it's by accident.

Like the guy too ugly for TV is in radio, I'd say that most journalists are there because they're not smart enough to write good novel or even a screenplay.

Having met a fair number of TV reporter types through a friend of mine, I can assure you the only thing going through their heads are "angle" and "market share". The facts are way, way down on the list, if on the list at all.

Nu

 

[GogglesPisano]

Living proof that a little knowledge can be dangerous.

 

[JanaBJana]

Just 'go fishin

 

[Huck]

Neal's had Airtran stock ever since it was V-Jet. Used to talk about it alot. He hates DAL because of it.

 

[GoingHot]

This guy at Creative Loafing in Atlanta has had a hard on for Boortz for years. Lately, he's been trying to get Boortz to admit he dodged the draft.

http://www.johnsugg.com/2006/04/the_following_i.html

 

[Champ42272]

Neal Boortz is a pilot, but he is 100% wrong on this one, but because of his radio show, he is very dangerous.

Saying crap like a Delta strike is the same as a divorce from your wife where you kill the wife after the divorce is insane.

But I can guarantee you one thing, Neal Bootz wouldn't even warm up a microphone without a contract. And if he ever left one broadcast network for another, he wouldn't give a dang what happened to the network he left, but the Delta pilots should take up the butt! I don't think so.

My wife (the Delta pilot) and myself were ready to go to the mattresses, now we'll have to wait to see what the terms of the TA are, I hope we didn't give away the farm.

Champ42272

 

[71KILO]

I usually agree with Neal Boortz when it comes to politics, personal responsibility, taxes, government, etc. But his ramblings on aviation sometimes yeally piss me off. Typical type-A arm-chair quarterback know-it-all pilot. I own a light aircraft and I fly a four-hole heavy and they are two different and distict animals. I don't care how much Boortz thinks he knows about aviation, I want a couple of professional, highly trained, high-time, well paid, turbine time, pilots up front. An overall 51% pay cut to DAL pilots just invites guys like Boortz, and all his Mooney time, to start wondering if they will ever, finally get asked by the flight attendant to come forward and land the triple-7. "Mr. Boortz," she said with a quiver in her voice, "The highly trained professional pilots are both incapacitated due to mal nutrition, as they were unable to eat that week while paying to keep their kids in a nice home and out of public schools." "Mr. Boortz won't you please save us all." Good luck Neal!

 

[Smacktard]

I usually agree with Neal Boortz when it comes to politics, personal responsibility, taxes, government, etc. But his ramblings on aviation sometimes yeally piss me off. Typical type-A arm-chair quarterback know-it-all pilot. I own a light aircraft and I fly a four-hole heavy and they are two different and distict animals. I don't care how much Boortz thinks he knows about aviation, I want a couple of professional, highly trained, high-time, well paid, turbine time, pilots up front. An overall 51% pay cut to DAL pilots just invites guys like Boortz, and all his Mooney time, to start wondering if they will ever, finally get asked by the flight attendant to come forward and land the triple-7. "Mr. Boortz," she said with a quiver in her voice, "The highly trained professional pilots are both incapacitated due to mal nutrition, as they were unable to eat that week while paying to keep their kids in a nice home and out of public schools." "Mr. Boortz won't you please save us all." Good luck Neal!

It's funny, I agree with him about the evils of teacher's unions, auto unions etc. But when it comes to pilot unions I get all worked up about how he's an idiot, he doesn't understand, blah blah. When it's all said and done, however, this is about jobs, plain and simple. Then I start to wonder if I'm the hypocrite...(I'm not, keep reading)

I've asked this before, what is it about this job that makes it so different from others with regard to getting paid for your experience (not seniority), and protecting yourself from getting outsourced/fired/laid off/what ever you want to call it? I'm playing devil's advocate here, don't jump on me for asking these questions, I get to the answer, keep reading.

But seriously, the only thing that allows us to keep the jobs is the union. From an outsider's point of view, this makes our situation similar to teacher's/auto unions. Unfortunately, there's one other factor that, if left to the scruples of the company, would go out the window like our jobs...safety. Checks and balances.

This sort of system IS preferable to the one found in other industries because, in the end, it protects the company from maximizing the dollar at all costs (sorry Value Jet, but outsourcing to save money led to incorrectly securing the canisters and ending the lives of everyone involved. How's this quote from the NTSB... According to this mechanic, there was a great deal of pressure to complete the work on the airplanes on time, and the mechanics had been working 12-hour shifts 7 days per week. Would a proud chest-thumping union worker familiar with the company, the aircraft and the systems have done this? Maybe so, but I argue that it would be a lot less likely.)

Perhaps this system needs the leverage of the unions to make it more like a large ship, not easy to turn quickly, not easy to exploit. If pilot unions were to point out that this system is preferable to a 'normal' professional 'office' type job and all of its inherent instabilities (all about profits you know), people like Boortz would understand why it is this way. It isn't all about profits and bottom line, Dick Ebersole's family can attest to that. The argument then that the union is only protecting the jobs and we should let the market turn this industry where it may, is void.


Thoughts?

 

[blzr]

Teachers unions protect teachers for life. Doubtful you will lose your job unless you get caught having sex with a student. They don't make great money in most instances, but alot of them are not bright enough to do anything else.

Auto unions ....I don't know much about them other than they are losing jobs left and right because they priced themselves out of the market and all the jobs are in China, India, Korea, and Japan.

American cars have become inferior because of the people designing the cars, not the ones building them, so I can't blame the unions there, but I do believe they were just too darn expensive to hold on to..

I'm outta coffee.....

but I support the aviation unions because the industry would be MESA across the board if folks like Boooortz had his way.

 

[744]

Thoughts?

OK, since you asked.

Boortz is just doing what Boortz/Limbaugh/Coulter & Company do. They entertain people by appealing to their prejudices with a mix of inflaming rhetoric and half truths. It is sadly entertaining when others are getting the treatment, but not so great when you are the piñata.

Most of us are not from old money, and are no different than teachers, autoworkers, Doctors or anyone else making a living by working. We are not special. And the managements we work for are no greedier, no more short sighted, no less compassionate than management teams in other industries.

 

[blueridge71]

Maybe yall should read the disclaimer from boortz.com:

Don't believe anything you read on this web page, or, for that matter, anything you hear on The Neal Boortz Show, unless it is consistent with what you already know to be true, or unless you have taken the time to research the matter to prove its accuracy to your satisfaction. This is known as "doing your homework."