Need a quick answer! Help!

[Eric]

This board is proving to be a great research tool.

Ok, anyone on here late tonight?

A gentleman called me today and needs a flight review. He has a bonanza with a throw over yoke. I don't have a high performance rating. Is there anyway I can give him a flight review?

I told him I thought I could as long as he was still current and would be the PIC. If he isn't current, either medical or flight review, then I'd have to be the PIC and I know I can't do that.

Any thoughts? I'm off to DOC's FAR forum.

I told him I'd call him tomorrow after I did some research.

Thanks
Eric

 

[avbug]

You've got it.

I did an instrument rating for someone last fall in their V tail with a throwover.

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

you just have to observe his/her flying. i did one in a tail dragger a few years back and it was my first time in a conventional gear airplane.

 

[bobbysamd]

Throwover controls

You can do it. 14 CFR 91.109(a) addresses flight instruction given in aircraft with throwover controls:

Sec. 91.109 - Flight instruction; Simulated instrument flight and certain flight tests.

(a) No person may operate a civil aircraft (except a manned free balloon) that is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully functioning dual controls. However, instrument flight instruction may be given in a single-engine airplane equipped with a single, functioning throwover control wheel in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator and ailerons when --

(1) The instructor has determined that the flight can be conducted safely; and

(2) The person manipulating the controls has at least a private pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings.

(emphasis added)

This is not exactly on point. The key, however, is the manipulator of the controls must have at least a Private for you to give instruction.

Hope that helps some more.

 

[TAG2]

I don't think you can give instruction in an aircraft for which you are not current and rated. I think you need a high perf. signoff to instruct in one. I don't have time to look this one up, but I'm pretty sure.

Being a CFI I suspect you took your Comm. in a complex aircraft with less than 200 HP? Maybe a 172RG?

Never get into an airplane with somebody you don't know unless you are completely confident that if needed, you have the ability to take over control of the airplane and not let somebody kill you. I have had too many people try to do that over the years.

 

[avbug]

Tag,

You're correct that you need to be rated, but an endorsement isn't a rating. A turbojet airplane such as the eclipse is a different matter, as one requires a type rating.

You don't need an endorsement to give instruction, only to act as pilot-in-command. As the instructor isn't necessarily PIC, nor is the instructor required to be (except in cases where the student is not qualified to act as PIC), the instructor doesn't require the endorsement to instruct.

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

" A turbojet airplane such as the eclipse is a different matter, as one requires a type rating."

Avbug- no type rating required in the eclipse jet.

 

[varicam]

" A turbojet airplane such as the eclipse is a different matter, as one requires a type rating."

Avbug- no type rating required in the eclipse jet.

FAR 61.31 (a)(2) requires the PIC of a turbojet airplane to hold an appropriate type rating. Are you saying the Eclipse isn't a turbojet airplane?

 

[A Squared]

At this point I don't think that the Eclipse has a type certificate. If I'm correct about that, then I don't think a type "rating" exists for the eclipse.

 

[varicam]

At this point I don't think that the Eclipse has a type certificate. If I'm correct about that, then I don't think a type "rating" exists for the eclipse.

Maybe not, but the PIC would require a LOA for any flying done before the type certificate is issued. After that a type rating would be required.