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[A Squared]

Maybe not, but the PIC would require a LOA for any flying done before the type certificate is issued. After that a type rating would be required.

Yes, I agree. A type rating will be required once the aircraft is certificated.

regards

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

boss has an eclipse on order. as of this date, no type required.

 

[A Squared]

boss has an eclipse on order. as of this date, no type required.

That's odd, the Eclipse Aviaton website says that the Eclipse will require a type rating. Does your boss know something that Eclipse doesn't.

I suppose that in a sense, you are correct in saying that "as of this date, no type required", because as of this date, you can't fly an Eclipse and you only need a type rating if you're going to fly one.

 

[varicam]

Here's some relevant info cut and pasted from the FAQ section of Eclipse Aviation's website:

"I understand that some jet aircraft require a type rating. Will one be required for the Eclipse jet?
Yes, the Federal Air Regulations dictate a type rating for any multi-engine, turbo-jet powered aircraft. Although the Eclipse 500 jet will be much easier to fly than most twin turbo-jet aircraft, the Eclipse factory training will qualify our owner/pilots for a type rating in the Eclipse 500 jet.


I've never flown a jet airplane. Would I be able to fly an Eclipse 500?
Contrary to what the jet pilots would have you believe, a jet is easier to fly than most piston aircraft. There are different techniques required, and the Eclipse factory training provided with each aircraft will address these. Also, jets fly much higher and faster than piston aircraft, so our customer training will include information about the high altitude environment and management of an aircraft at higher speeds.


Is pilot training included in the delivered price?
Yes, a factory-training program to obtain a type rating for 1 pilot is included in the price.


What are Eclipse’s minimum requirements of training necessary to fly the Eclipse 500?
At a minimum, we will require pilots to have a private pilot license with instrument and multiengine ratings prior to entering the Eclipse factory school. The Eclipse, like all turbofan aircraft, will require a Type Rating to act as Pilot-In-Command. A commercial license would be beneficial and would improve insurability. Some high altitude right-seat jet time would be beneficial if the opportunity is available. "

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

i am only repeating info from my boss. from what i have been told regarding the eclipse jet, a type is not required. but i dont know how old my info is. my boss seems to be up to date on it though.

 

[varicam]

i am only repeating info from my boss. from what i have been told regarding the eclipse jet, a type is not required. but i dont know how old my info is. my boss seems to be up to date on it though.

I give up, surrender, wave the white flag, and whatever else:

Because your boss says so, no type rating is required. The FARs and Eclipse management are absolutely wrong and Eclipse's inclusion of a type rating with the purchase of one of their airplanes can't be right because there isn't such a thing. Forgive me for previously believing my own lying eyes instead of your boss.

 

[patq1]

Eric,

You have a commercial multiengine rating according to your profile. I think that will cover the high performance sign off.

pat

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

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Originally posted by Jet_Dreamer
i am only repeating info from my boss. from what i have been told regarding the eclipse jet, a type is not required. but i dont know how old my info is. my boss seems to be up to date on it though.
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I give up, surrender, wave the white flag, and whatever else:

Because your boss says so, no type rating is required. The FARs and Eclipse management are absolutely wrong and Eclipse's inclusion of a type rating with the purchase of one of their airplanes can't be right because there isn't such a thing. Forgive me for previously believing my own lying eyes instead of your boss.
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easy there varicam, i did not want to start some flaming match about a stupid thing like "my dad says this". excuse me for spreading ill info. i can safely say you are correct after i reviewed the fars. i will simply question my recent info from my boss.
peace.

 

[avbug]

A multi engine rating doesn't automatically cover the high performance endorsement, because the multi engine training and practical test may be taken in an airplane with less than 200 horsepower (that's per engine, not total).

The high performance endorsement is required, not implied. In other words, if you obtain a rating, you still need the endorsement. A rating doesn't replace it.

The eclipse jet is the BD-5 of the new millenium. It's been nothing but lies and misinformation. The fact that they still release information to the flying public is only an insult to intelligence.

Wait! Let's tune in this week and find out how many tens of thousands of airplanes they're gauranteed to deliver, and if the potential cost hasn't risen again, or if they've found that the new powerplant selection still won't cut it for their airplane, again. I'm sure it will eventually fly, but the credibility of that program is in the toilet.

 

[Eric]

Thanks guys

Thank you for all the responses.

Turns out the guy's last flight review was over 24 months ago. Looks like I just need to bite the bullet and get the high performance endorsement.

Patq1, I got my multi rating in a Seminole. It only has 180 HP per side, so I didn't get the endorsement.

Did my instructor rating in the Arrow, 200 HP. Still didn't qualify. If I had only had one more horsey......