NBC New York is trying to hijack airplanes...

[dseagrav]

Check this one out - Be advised, and advise others!
Nobody should give these guys any ammo, OK?

Aero-News Link

 

[banned username 2]

These guys should be arrested and charged as terrorists... Since basically they were attempting to commandeer an aircraft and bring weapons on board... How is this any different than a real terrorist who gets caught before successfully committing the act?

 

[rumpletumbler]

The sad thing is that it won't get even a fraction of the publicity it would have had they succeeded.

 

[s0ldier93]

Maybe the bahavior and glorious failure can be pointed out to a rival news station for a "pointing-and-laughing" factor. . . . . Fox News anyone?

 

[dseagrav]

How is this any different than a real terrorist who gets caught before successfully committing the act?

NBC has better lawyers.

 

[minitour]

of course you know this is all Clinton's fault...

 

[BugSmasher999]

You know the worst part is that everyone assumes that these guys (terrorists) are going to be dumb enough to do all thing things mentioned in the article. (use of CASH/different state Licenses/ bags of cutlery/middle eastern features). It’s not the dumb ass wanna-be terrorists we have to worry about (because they’re obviously easy to spot). It’s the ones who DON’T exhibit any of these tell tale signs I worry about. Take away all of those features…and what do you got? I’ll tell you what you’ve got…. You’ve got the real thing (ie professionals).

Are these guys evil bastards?….YES. Should we report suspicious stuff like this? ABSOLUTELY!

But don’t fool yourself into believing that these guys are dumb. The professionals may not be so easy to spot.

 

[EagleRJ]

It's ironic that WNBC is trying to show what a threat helicopters pose to the nation's safety.

Their flight department has one of the worst safety records of any ENG operator.

 

[ThomasR]

Security

These two guys might consider themselves lucky to be alive.

They obviously think of themselves as creative story go getters but their adventure should be admonished by a stay in prison.

Their efforts were dishonest and an attempt to slander the F.B.O. by creating a false scenario with the intention to cause harm to an, otherwise, honest business by making incredulous remarks after the fact.

I have seen these tactics before and the FBI have ID to the ready when they witness unsafe responses to a pre-rehearsed investigation. They never, as far as I know, pose as something they are not. But rather approach a situation assess the security and make their findings available at the moment.

Airport personnel believing they were in danger by these idiots could have defended themself with deadly force.

All military aircraft require either a key to start or a crypted sequence in the start procedures. I don't know about civilian aircraft. But if hijackers can quickly learn to fly a big jet they can easily walk onto any airport and clilmb into a plane or helicopter with little notice.

Security should be part of the daily morning briefing to all airport personnel.

Why would these bozos thing otherwise?

 

[pilotman2105]

The sad thing is that it won't get even a fraction of the publicity it would have had they succeeded.

Nothing on the major networks yet, but AOPA is spinning it and eating it up.

http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/040812watch.html

 

[Dragonbravo]

If they want to pretend to be terroists, then they should get treated like terroists. I say send them to gitmo.

If I were a terroist, I would get a job at a news station. If I get caught trying to kill people, how convienent, I'm just doing a news story on killing people. If I don't get caught, I get to kill infidels. It's a win-win situation for me (if I were a terroist). I'm sure that none of the security measures that these guys were trying to expose at the airport exist at the news room.

 

[STL717]

There is a report on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch Web site

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/Metro+East/story/44C3352B49126C5386256EEF00160B3A?OpenDocument&Headline=TV+crew+testing+terror+defense+is+caught

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

now Al-Qaida knows not to use out of state driver's licenses and cars
thank you phil boyer

GA security is lax, and everyone knows it

 

[FN FAL]

These guys don't have to actually do anything, these terrorists. All they have to do is go around a city with a video camera or act like they are going to the bathroom in a strange sequence on an airliner and sit back and laugh. Meanwhile, they are causing us to spend millions every time someone has to look at the new threat.

They are going to get a ton of milage out of spooking us and causing us to spend money. Not saying that suspicious activity shouldn't be investigated, but I think they are going to sit back and probe all kinds of terror targets and their security, just to build in a "cry wolf syndrome" and to cost us citizens and our law enforcement agencies frustration and money.

 

[rumpletumbler]

These guys don't have to actually do anything, these terrorists. All they have to do is go around a city with a video camera or act like they are going to the bathroom in a strange sequence on an airliner and sit back and laugh. Meanwhile, they are causing us to spend millions every time someone has to look at the new threat.

They are going to get a ton of milage out of spooking us and causing us to spend money. Not saying that suspicious activity shouldn't be investigated, but I think they are going to sit back and probe all kinds of terror targets and their security, just to build in a "cry wolf syndrome" and to cost us citizens and our law enforcement agencies frustration and money.

I was reading this morning about our military "scaling down" operations in Najaf so everyone could say they would play nice and then go on their way. F that. Finish the job. cmon..........what will it take?

 

[Flying Illini]

"I'm absolutely outraged that NBC News is out here trying to create news rather than report news," McDaniel said after meeting with members of the Transportation Security Administration. "This clearly scared the hell out of a lot of folks and wasted a lot of valuable resources, tying up emergency forces, and all of it was entirely unnecessary.

"If they wanted to learn about security, we'd have been happy to take them on a ride and show how it works," McDaniel said. Thomas said an apology was in order from NBC to her and everyone who was involved.

I agree, they should apologize. How much money do you think that incident cost the small town police department?
I like his first line, "I'm absolutely outraged that NBC News is out here trying to create news rather than report news," McDaniel said. And he should be!

NBC defended its actions in an e-mail statement to the Post-Dispatch, saying that the employees did nothing wrong in determining the security measures at helicopter charter services.

"Nothing they did or carried was illegal," said NBC spokesman Allison Gollust. "In Illinois, the system worked and ... our reporting will include this part of the story, evidence that civilians like those in Illinois are making attempts to keep the skies safe."

I bet this will be a 30 minute special in which they spent 29 minutes talking about 1 or 2 airports that they "infiltrated" and 20 seconds mentioning/downplaying the ones in which they were caught. Isn't it illegal to yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater? I think this is the same thing. I wouldn't let this group of people go. It's like trying to buy alcohol underage, getting caught by the cops, then saying, "well, I'm with so and so, I go around testing gas stations to make sure they aren't selling to minors so you can let me go now...whatever. Give 'em a few nights in a "federal pound-you-in-the-@ss prison"

 

[Bandit60]

If you make a false threat you are prosecuted. I think these news medias should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. They are just crying wolf.

 

[FN FAL]

I was reading this morning about our military "scaling down" operations in Najaf so everyone could say they would play nice and then go on their way. F that. Finish the job. cmon..........what will it take?

"...We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us."

 

[sky37d]

FN FAL

that was awful. Can you tell us who wrote that, and where? I'm out of the news way too much.

Thanks

 

[FN FAL]

FN FAL

that was awful. Can you tell us who wrote that, and where? I'm out of the news way too much.

Thanks

It was Colonel Walter E. Kurtz's speech to Captain Willard. A movie quote from Apocalypse Now.

I guess I didn't want to say what I really wanted to say in response to the posters question...just let it suffice that my answer wouldn't have choppers playing Wagner out of the speakers of helicopters, but Rammstein.

If you want to end all this crap with terrorists, either ISOLATE or DOMINATE...don't pu$$yfoot around with making friends.

"Find the bastards, then pile on!"

 

[rumpletumbler]

"Find the bastards, then pile on!"

AAAAAMAN! Brudda! Who will have the balls though? Why doesn't anyone have the balls to eliminate it? What is the problem? I'll do it....elect meeeeeeeee...haha

 

[ThomasR]

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets take a squadron of Cessna's and Pipers and INVADE IRAQ!

EEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeee HHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh AAAAAAAAAaaaaaa

 

[jetexas]

Kinda reminds me of the guy that put a "bomb" on that SWA aircraft just to prove a point. Morons.