Navajo Pay

[Rally]

Difficult decision. Do a regular job and wait for the regionals. (regular meaning outside aviation) or do this Navajo Job. 23,000 year 24/7 on call fly about once a week. Wash the airplane do EVERYTHING for the owner for his trips etc. Is it worth it? Also year contract of about 4 grand? Am I getting ripped off?

 

[pudnocker]

Rally


That seems really low!!! I would have this guy visit www.salary.com and have him plug in the figures for small/non-jet PIC. It shows starting salary @ 53K in Florida.

 

[flyboy]

Absolutely too low!! That is theft. You are being asked to be in charge of EVERYTHING and they want to pay you what an assistant manager at McDonalds would make. Something's gotta change in this industry.

 

[Gearmunky]

My 2

There are two ways to look at this. One figure out how much it is per hour for a whole year for you to be on call, which figures out to be 1.05 per hour. Or figure out how how much flying it's going to actually be and figure it out that way.

Managing a part 91 Navajo is like managing a Honda Civic. If you are waiting for an airline job and this guy only flies once a week and wants you to take care of his airplane, do stuff like cut grass, instruct or something like that to fill in the time, it's better than getting completely out of aviation and then trying to get back in. Looks better on a resume too. I don't know your financial situation but, you have a base salary of 27,000 and everything else is just icing on the cake.

No offense to pudnocker, but an owner must be a rich crackhead to pay someone 53k to manage a navajo.

The pay still beats a starting regional job.

 

[pudnocker]

I guess I have worked for some rich crackheads before.

pud

 

[Gearmunky]

You mean to tell me you made 53K per year managing a Navajo? That equates to saying that a person responsible for managing a Gulfstream is equal to making a million a year. I have friends that manage multiple large jets that make 100-200 a year. Small/non-jet PIC is like a King Air or something like that, maybe the pay scale is a lot different in Florida, I mean I've heard of some rediculous salaries, but 53k for a managing and flying a single Navajo? C'mon. Maybe your one of the lucky ones.

 

[Throttlebender]

Made $40k plus benefits doing exactle what you describe out of Ohio. That's a fair rate for the job and aircraft. I'm making $50k now flying a navajo for a different company plus benefits and I don't do anthing but fly it. If you have any leverage I would surely try to get more $$$. Experience level is also a factor in starting pay but don't sell yourself short.

 

[Gearmunky]

Things must be completely out of whack over here in the mid-atlantic. My friends who are Navajo captains are making 25k a year. Another guy who manages one makes 35k year. I'm definitly gonna spread the word.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

There are two ways to look at this. One figure out how much it is per hour for a whole year for you to be on call, which figures out to be 1.05 per hour. Or figure out how how much flying it's going to actually be and figure it out that way.

Managing a part 91 Navajo is like managing a Honda Civic. If you are waiting for an airline job and this guy only flies once a week and wants you to take care of his airplane, do stuff like cut grass, instruct or something like that to fill in the time, it's better than getting completely out of aviation and then trying to get back in. Looks better on a resume too. I don't know your financial situation but, you have a base salary of 27,000 and everything else is just icing on the cake.

No offense to pudnocker, but an owner must be a rich crackhead to pay someone 53k to manage a navajo.

The pay still beats a starting regional job.

I know a guy that makes 40k plus bennies to fly a Cirrus. He has 700 hour tt.
I also know a guy that flies a Lear PIC for 33k with no bennies. He has 4000tt

You are worth what you settle for.

 

[Lead Sled]

You are worth what you settle for.

Very well said.

Lead Sled

 

[Gearmunky]

I know a guy that makes 40k plus bennies to fly a Cirrus. He has 700 hour tt.
I also know a guy that flies a Lear PIC for 33k with no bennies. He has 4000tt

You are worth what you settle for.

Couldn't agree with you more.

 

[Bandit60]

As far as the original post is concerned....I think the training contract is something that I might have a problem with. Where is he going to send you to training to make it worth $4000 contract. Remember to add a few things to those contracts to make them fair.

1. Contract nul/void if new owners
2. Contract nul/void if aircraft is sold
3 Contract nul/void if salary is decrease by $1.

If they wont agree to these conditions you might not want to fly for these people.

 

[peter185]

For what it is worth I got a job in the Midwest flying and managing a BE-58 and C-210 for a company. My compensation is ~45K plus a pretty standard benefits package. We fly at least 3 days per week, sometimes more. 90% of the trips are known and scheduled at least 2 weeks in advance, I do have to be ready to go at all times though. And yes my profile is correct, I only have about 900tt.