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While speaking of all the latest Frank diatribes I continue to be taken aback by his complete lack of knowledge or accuracy when he goes on the attack. I can find blatant misinformation in almost post he makes. It's a very similar tactic from other stooges. Why would that be? Why would you trust someone who can't even speak truthfully with your future?

The problem is very very few pilots are willing to actually do the research themselves. I was approached by several people regarding signing a decertification card. It became obvious they knew very little about the facts behind their complaints. When asked these people either clam up or say with weird brazen pride they don't read union communications. What? How can you rally behind something you don't really know?

My biggest problem with Frank'n'Beans (the decert crew including RH) right now is their complete all out assault on the Flexjet members of the negotiating committee. No wonder people don't want to be "out" in their support of the union. There are far more of us who support in the shadows than management realizes. These continued assaults against people brave enough to be on record might be an attempt keep the union from succeeding but in reality it's giving people like me (opinionated, researched, and thought-ful) more assurance than ever how badly a Union is needed. We cannot risk our careers to a band of gypsy IGMs. The Teamsters might not be perfect but they are leagues better than Frank'n'Beans.

Management fought dirty to make sure only one pilot - litetally one - was in the room for the arbitration and refused to allow any legal counsel to be available. The dirty arbritrator agreed. Then they put that pilot up against JW who has precise expertise in these areas. Management did this to their pilots. They set the stage for us to lose. And then they attack the process they fought for? This is insanity. No wonder we got ****. I can't believe Frank'n'Beans are dumb enough to bring these facts to the light of day. It virtually proves how dirty management has been. But there is a limit.

If you are paying attention to every detail, you will see the entire past 2 years is the culmination of everything tricky Ricci has in his pocket to finally gain back control. He is smart. He is cunning. He has elevated the game of union busting to unprecedented levels. However, the good news is there is a limit to how far he can play this out. And that time is coming to a end. The pilot shortage is and will continue to effectively cut short his ability to continue the unrealistic assault on his own employees.

I have at times been just as guilty as Frank'n'Beans for attacking union leadership from Flex. I haven't always been a fan. But my tune has changed after taking a step back from the personalities and looking at the facts. And the fact is attacking these people when their fellow pilots have set them up with little to no input or support is on us, Frank included, and says more bad about us then it does about them.

I have said it before and I'll say it again: this attack on the few pilots willing to stand up for us is counterproductive and damaging. Why do we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot? Pride? Politics? Fear? To what end? It makes no sense.
 
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So you Phenom guys; are you trying to shut us down ?

That’s about the stupidest thing I’ve ever read, EVER! Yeah, the Phenom pilots are intentionally putting incidents and accidents on their records to prove a point. Jesus, could your ego be any bigger? While there is a LOT of investigating to be done early indications are that there was black ice all over the area, not just at the airport. Could that have been a factor? Too early to say, but to suggest that a group of pilots would intentionally jeopardize their lives in the moment and their careers in the long run is the epitome of arrogant. Get over yourself, jackass!
 
That’s about the stupidest thing I’ve ever read, EVER! Yeah, the Phenom pilots are intentionally putting incidents and accidents on their records to prove a point. Jesus, could your ego be any bigger? While there is a LOT of investigating to be done early indications are that there was black ice all over the area, not just at the airport. Could that have been a factor? Too early to say, but to suggest that a group of pilots would intentionally jeopardize their lives in the moment and their careers in the long run is the epitome of arrogant. Get over yourself, jackass!
So if there was Black Ice everywhere, why in the world would they choose to land?? Pressure from the company? Complete lack of judgement? There should have been red flags on this everywhere, which would warrant field condition reports. Seriously, how many airplanes can options run off runways and still exist?!
 
Maybe they should Enable automatic bumpers on each side of the runway kinda of like in a bowling alley when a kid is up so they don’t get a gutter ball.
 
That’s about the stupidest thing I’ve ever read, EVER! Yeah, the Phenom pilots are intentionally putting incidents and accidents on their records to prove a point. Jesus, could your ego be any bigger? While there is a LOT of investigating to be done early indications are that there was black ice all over the area, not just at the airport. Could that have been a factor? Too early to say, but to suggest that a group of pilots would intentionally jeopardize their lives in the moment and their careers in the long run is the epitome of arrogant. Get over yourself, jackass!


Man, talk about stupid. You are a total idiot. Have you never heard of sarcasm you dumbass!
 
That’s about the stupidest thing I’ve ever read, EVER! Yeah, the Phenom pilots are intentionally putting incidents and accidents on their records to prove a point. Jesus, could your ego be any bigger? While there is a LOT of investigating to be done early indications are that there was black ice all over the area, not just at the airport. Could that have been a factor? Too early to say, but to suggest that a group of pilots would intentionally jeopardize their lives in the moment and their careers in the long run is the epitome of arrogant. Get over yourself, jackass!

Early indications suggest that one side of the house keeps running planes off runways, in some cases causing hull losses, by crossing thresholds at ref + 50, landing long and fast with excessive tailwinds in a thunderstorm, landing unstable with excessive tailwinds ahead of a front, choosing a 4000 fr runway when 6500 was available and then landing fast with a tailwind or flying their plane through hail because radars are hard to read and stuff.

So I think the one side of the house can be forgiven for believing, probably correctly, that the other side done gone and fudged up again.

The FAA believed that the next Flops incident would be in May based on recent history. They were too optimistic apparently.

Let’s hope that the crew in question wasn’t culpable and were the victims of failures or conditions beyond their control. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on that.
 
Well we will see. I have flown with both of the pilots involved. What separates this incident from the others is the fact that This is the first time an unabashed Union supporter was involved. He was always conservative in his runway calculations, and was willing to go toe to toe when faced with a pilot pusher. The facts will come out in due time.
 
Early indications suggest that one side of the house keeps running planes off runways, in some cases causing hull losses, by crossing thresholds at ref + 50, landing long and fast with excessive tailwinds in a thunderstorm, landing unstable with excessive tailwinds ahead of a front, choosing a 4000 fr runway when 6500 was available and then landing fast with a tailwind or flying their plane through hail because radars are hard to read and stuff.

So I think the one side of the house can be forgiven for believing, probably correctly, that the other side done gone and fudged up again.

The FAA believed that the next Flops incident would be in May based on recent history. They were too optimistic apparently.

Let’s hope that the crew in question wasn’t culpable and were the victims of failures or conditions beyond their control. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on that.

The big question is why?

There is much speculation, several possible answers.

Look back at my 10 plus years history on Flightinfo and you'll see I have never been an advocate of our training department. I know the knee-jerk response will be our training is better but the fact is there has never been substantive proof our schoolhouse makes us better over any other outfit out there similar in size and scope. And many great organizations with "substandard" in-house training departments (yes several of our instructors have the hubris to declare our superiority to outfits like AA and DAL) have better records when factored.

So why? Is it the caliber of pilot? That's a little harsh and arrogant. Is it their FOM? Well if that's true it won't be long before FX crews are culpable. Is it the union? Naysayers will say yes but that's just foolish and ridiculous hot air, especially since most of the pilots were anti union at the time of the incidents. Is it fatigue? Pressure? Maintenance? Aircraft peculiarities? We need to personally investigate every possible cause and do a self evaluation. If we determine, personally, the issue is more company than pilot, well...

One thing is for sure. The FAA was already expressing their concerns this was a COMPANY issue. To beat their incident expectation by 4 months is not good. I would not be surprised to see them ground the fleet and make other recommendations that put other fleets under the microscope.

One thing's for sure. We cannot handle a fleet shutdown. We are spread paper thin as it is... are you starting to see Kenn maybe is not the aviation business god all RL pilots hail him to be?
 

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