My thoughts on S.65

[SWAdude]

I thought the whole reason to get into this job, and it is a job, Skippy, was to work less, get paid more. What has happened to the logic of the profession? You all dumbfound me. At 55, if my butt isn't firmly planted in the sand with a fruity cocktail, I have done something seriously wrong. Repeat after me, work less, paid more, work less, paid more, work less, paid more..............

That about sums it up for many of those I have run across.

I don't get it. How do you get paid more by quiting early?

 

[capt. megadeth]

At 55, if my butt isn't firmly planted in the sand with a fruity cocktail, I have done something seriously wrong. .

No doubt. I would rather not live like a rock star and retire earlier. Actually, I would rather live like a rock star AND retire earlier but I am not a CEO so I guess it's one or the other.

 

[Purpledog]

How do you get paid more by quiting early?

You get paid more by bringing the value of the jet pilot up to what it should be and not agreeing to do our profession for less than a manager at MacDonalds makes. You don't get paid more by working longer, you just work longer and earn the same crappy wage, just longer. But first I guess we have to be able to spell, two 't's in quitting. Just messing with you, I'm a frequent spelling disaster.

 

[Dennis Miller]

Repeat after me, work less, paid more, work less, paid more, work less, paid more..............

Regrettably my friend you are sounding more like a 16 year old mother of 4 who just got her Ed Mc Mahon USA government check on the first.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Regrettably my friend you are sounding more like a 16 year old mother of 4 who just got her Ed Mc Mahon USA government check on the first.

Nooo...he sounds like he flys for a company that can easily pass any increase in costs to the consumer. Once that gravy train ends,he will find out what it is really like out here , just like the rest of us had the last several years.


PHXFLYR

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

You guys can debate this until the cows come home. Even longer than the Wright debate. It also reminds me of the Social Security debate.

Shortest synopsis I can come up with-----


Old guys to Young guys---I'd like to keep working until 65. I'll make more cash and I love the job I do. Most of us worked hard to land this dream job and its hard to job search at 60, give me a break. I care about your furloughes and income but stop trying to kick me out of my seat!

Young guys to Old guys---Get out of my seat Old man, you are the only thing holding up my career!! I'd like to get out of the regionals before I'm 35. Besides, a deal is a deal.


Don't forget, Young dudes, many pilots will medical out before 60. Imagine how many more will medical out before 65 or 67. No right answer here. It is what it is, a crappy time in this industry.

 

[Purpledog]

This dumbfounds me. What exactly is your goal? Work twice as hard for half the pay. Now that's something to shoot for! Everyone realizes that pax carriers are in a bind right now. However, that is no reason to minimize our profession and your sense of self worth. Do you really think that you deserve to be paid less than a fast food manager?

Once that gravy train ends,he will find out what it is really like out here , just like the rest of us had the last several years

I hope it never happens, but thanks for rooting against the 4600 of us that are trying to keep the bar at a decent level. Yes I am fortunate that I work for a company that makes money, never said I wasn't. You all sound like a bunch of management stooges. Attitudes like this are why our profession is in the gutter.

 

[vetrider]

My thoughts? This round and round stuff is like arguing abortion, religion, and the death penalty. With age 60 the way it is at least we know what we've got. I say leave the rule alone, maybe its not perfect but we know what it is and every single pilot here has known what it is before he even got into the business.
There is a book titled "One Pilots Log: The Career of E.L. 'Slonnie' Sloniger" which was written by his son. It chronicles his life and career. Slonnie is also Ernie Ganns Old Number One. Chapter one has some very interesting reading on the subject. Age 60 feelings aside, I would definately recommend the book to anyone.

 

[Malter1]

Anyone have a link for the latest info on S.65?

 

[Flopgut]

You guys can debate this until the cows come home. Even longer than the Wright debate. It also reminds me of the Social Security debate.

Shortest synopsis I can come up with-----

Don't forget, Young dudes, many pilots will medical out before 60.

Yes, unfortunately for me, it will probably be me.

 

[Flopgut]

Anyone have a link for the latest info on S.65?

Just talked to our legislative affairs guy with ALPA (CAL). It won't pass this time according to him.

I do not have a link. I have done a pretty exhaustive search for info and found a lot, but it doesn't seem to make sense. That is why I called our guy.

Unfortunately, he said foriegn ownership will be coming...soon.

 

[Clyde]

I may be in the minority out here, but I would actually like to see them LOWER the retirement age to 55.

Airplanes are nice machines, but if I could retire tomorrow I would. Although it is better than a lot of other jobs out there, it is still just a job.

Plan at an early age to retire on your own investments and retirement plans, and you will not be a slave to your employer. Living below your means will help too.

What is the use of working until 65 and then dying at 67? For all of you people out there whose sun rises and sets around your cockpit, what do you plan on doing if and when you finally do retire?

 

[Clyde]

Just talked to our legislative affairs guy with ALPA (CAL). It won't pass this time according to him.

I do not have a link. I have done a pretty exhaustive search for info and found a lot, but it doesn't seem to make sense. That is why I called our guy.

Unfortunately, he said foriegn ownership will be coming...soon.

Maybe once and for all they can finally stick a fork in this age 65 retirement issue!

 

[The Prussian]

I would actually like to see them LOWER the retirement age to 55.

That is a choice that is already available to you....

Freedom is a wonderful thing!!

 

[Clyde]

That is a choice that is already available to you....

Freedom is a wonderful thing!!

For the time being it is. What concerns me is whether or not there will be a large money hit if the retirement age is 65 and people want to leave at 55.

 

[The Prussian]

I would actually like to see them LOWER the retirement age to 55.

OK....so back to your original statement. So let's force all those who are between the ages of 55 and 60 out of work.....would that help your retirement planning somewhat??