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Oh God, where to start...
The contract that is sent to the pilots for ratification is a DIRECT result of what the NC is able to get out of the company.
1. If the polling numbers show the majority of pilots aren't in favor of a concessionary contract, then the NC is violating its responsibility to the pilots of NOT ALLOWING ONE TO GO TO VOTE. Period.
2. If the polling numbers show the majority of pilots aren't in favor of a concessionary contract, then the BOD is violating their responsibility to the pilots of NOT ALLOWING ONE TO GO TO VOTE.
3. If the polling numbers show the majority of the pilots aren't in favor of a concessionary contract, then the MEC Chair is violating his responsibility to the pilots of NOT ALLOWING ONE TO GO TO VOTE.
This is not my first rodeo. These are BASIC TENANTS that ALL of these people SWORE AN OATH to perform for their membership. Anything that is put out that is even VAGUELY in conflict with the Wilson Polling data violates the trust and faith of the pilots. Period.
There is no "ramming a concessionary contract" down ANYONE'S throat. The NC and BOD determine what goes to Mem Rat.
The first ones however, are your FAA-MANDATED responsibility to do. If something's wrong, you call it in. Period. You ALWAYS conduct a thorough preflight. Period. You ALWAYS operate the aircraft as though the FAA were watching, because it's the SAFE way to do it. If that causes delays, so be it.
Take a step back, enjoy your family, enjoy the holidays, and realize we're STILL a year or more away from the end game in this. We still have a LOT of tools available to us as a union that we haven't even begun to explore yet.
Stay the course!
My dad and I are the only ones in our family in the aviation field. Most are in medicine with two attorneys. The one doctor (cardio-thoracic surgeon) has been barely paying the bills the last 4 years after he began practicing and is just now starting to have a decent lifestyle. at 40.
The other just spent 8 months without a job after HCA moved in and purchased the hospital and shut it down to elliminate the competition. He's an Anesthesiologist... was making $300k to $400k when he was working but now the market here is flooded with doctors, nurses, etc from the hospital closing. He's going to have to move an hour into the country to get a job at $200k. At 38.
The G.P.'s are struggling to make $150k a year at 35-45... insurance companies are destroying their ability to make money with "negotiated fees" and other such nonsense. All in the name of lower insurance rates, which I'm sure as heck not seeing, my insurance costs go up every open enrollment no matter WHICH company I'm with.
Corporate Attorneys are making pretty good change, but it takes an inside contact to get one of these jobs (just like a major). VERY few do it on merit alone and if they do, they're one of the really talented attorneys who also makes a killing in the private sector doing high-power criminal defense.
The majority of attorneys doing bankruptcy practice, family law practice (divorce, wills, POA's), and state prosecutors make right around $100,000 a year and work from 7 in the morning until 6 or so at night.
The MBA's are definitely where the money is at. If you want to go back to school, go get your MBA and go back to the airlines on the other side of the fence. You may not have any self-respect left, but at least you'll be set up to be part of the new aristocracy arising from this country for probably the next half-century.
As for me, I'll keep flying, keep fighting to have a decent lifestyle, and enjoy my family as much as possible.
Sorry if I'm rambling, the baby's been sick for a week and gave me whatever he has...
That's something I'd better not EVER, EVER hear a NPA BOD or Rep come out and say.We are about to have a concessionary contract rammed down our throat and no one is stepping up to the plate. Until we hit them in the wallet, expect nothing to change.
The contract that is sent to the pilots for ratification is a DIRECT result of what the NC is able to get out of the company.
1. If the polling numbers show the majority of pilots aren't in favor of a concessionary contract, then the NC is violating its responsibility to the pilots of NOT ALLOWING ONE TO GO TO VOTE. Period.
2. If the polling numbers show the majority of pilots aren't in favor of a concessionary contract, then the BOD is violating their responsibility to the pilots of NOT ALLOWING ONE TO GO TO VOTE.
3. If the polling numbers show the majority of the pilots aren't in favor of a concessionary contract, then the MEC Chair is violating his responsibility to the pilots of NOT ALLOWING ONE TO GO TO VOTE.
This is not my first rodeo. These are BASIC TENANTS that ALL of these people SWORE AN OATH to perform for their membership. Anything that is put out that is even VAGUELY in conflict with the Wilson Polling data violates the trust and faith of the pilots. Period.
There is no "ramming a concessionary contract" down ANYONE'S throat. The NC and BOD determine what goes to Mem Rat.
Many of those, in and of themselves, are illegal work actions. Especially not calling for a gate, cleaning, catering, etc. Those ARE part of your job.Taxi as if the FAA was observing, write up each and every maintenance discrepancy, alert, cabin discrepancy, do not reset CB's, do not test run engines (even if directed by Mx), conduct meticulous pre-flight inspections, do not call for a gate, cleaning, catering. In other words DO YOUR JOB AND NOTHING MORE!!
The first ones however, are your FAA-MANDATED responsibility to do. If something's wrong, you call it in. Period. You ALWAYS conduct a thorough preflight. Period. You ALWAYS operate the aircraft as though the FAA were watching, because it's the SAFE way to do it. If that causes delays, so be it.
I'm glad,,, I can, too, if it's concessionary. But I don't believe our elected officials will send anything like that to us for Rat. If anything I'm hearing the exact opposite. Tensions are high, people are frustrated, which is what management wants.We have our sights set way too low. I've said it before, I can safely cast my NO vote today.
Take a step back, enjoy your family, enjoy the holidays, and realize we're STILL a year or more away from the end game in this. We still have a LOT of tools available to us as a union that we haven't even begun to explore yet.
Stay the course!
For once I agree with YPF.The medical field is in worse shape than aviation. Just try going through all that hell for the same paycheck you get after six years at AirTran.
My dad and I are the only ones in our family in the aviation field. Most are in medicine with two attorneys. The one doctor (cardio-thoracic surgeon) has been barely paying the bills the last 4 years after he began practicing and is just now starting to have a decent lifestyle. at 40.
The other just spent 8 months without a job after HCA moved in and purchased the hospital and shut it down to elliminate the competition. He's an Anesthesiologist... was making $300k to $400k when he was working but now the market here is flooded with doctors, nurses, etc from the hospital closing. He's going to have to move an hour into the country to get a job at $200k. At 38.
The G.P.'s are struggling to make $150k a year at 35-45... insurance companies are destroying their ability to make money with "negotiated fees" and other such nonsense. All in the name of lower insurance rates, which I'm sure as heck not seeing, my insurance costs go up every open enrollment no matter WHICH company I'm with.
Your family is in the minority.I come from a family of lawyers and yes there are some that make under 100k but most make significantly more. I have seen my brother make more in one month than I made the whole year. He has been a lawyer for about 7 years and is on pace to bring in well over 500k and he still has time to play golf twice a week.
Corporate Attorneys are making pretty good change, but it takes an inside contact to get one of these jobs (just like a major). VERY few do it on merit alone and if they do, they're one of the really talented attorneys who also makes a killing in the private sector doing high-power criminal defense.
The majority of attorneys doing bankruptcy practice, family law practice (divorce, wills, POA's), and state prosecutors make right around $100,000 a year and work from 7 in the morning until 6 or so at night.
The MBA's are definitely where the money is at. If you want to go back to school, go get your MBA and go back to the airlines on the other side of the fence. You may not have any self-respect left, but at least you'll be set up to be part of the new aristocracy arising from this country for probably the next half-century.
As for me, I'll keep flying, keep fighting to have a decent lifestyle, and enjoy my family as much as possible.
Sorry if I'm rambling, the baby's been sick for a week and gave me whatever he has...
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