My parents aren't wealthy!!!

[Gorilla]

Join the military, work hard. Uncle Sam pays for it all. My parents spent all my college money, and they were welcome to it, it was their money, not mine.

Good luck. Keep your eyes open to the realities. Remember, you can fly for fun even if a career doesn't pan out.

 

[ePilot22]

Join the military, work hard. Uncle Sam pays for it all.

Oh yeah! The government tit, milk it!!!




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[urflyingme?!]

Student Loans!

(duh)

 

[Amish RakeFight]

inheritence $$$

 

[scoreboard]

Take almost anyone out there, and they can reach their desired career with a simple college degree, and yeah, maybe a little "due paying".

But it would appear that the prospective commercial pilot has far, far more to contend with. Not only must this person go into debt 40K for the degree, but they must also spend more than that on flight training. Seriously, you're looking at $100,000, before you can even hope to get an airline job.

How am I supposed to do it???? I don't have rich parents that will send me to ERAU. How am I supposed to come up with 100K????????

Welcome to the american dream!! If Vietnamese imigrants can get off the boat and 20 years later own a chain of air conditioning repair shops, put three of 5 kids (last two still to young) through law/medical school, you can too.

Think step by step. Get the education, get a part time job, get the student loans. After that, two paths, maybe three. A: pure civilian, it doesn't cost 100K. B: Pure military, and unlike epilot22 who thinks it is sucking off a teet, 10-20 years later you come out fully qualified and desirable by any and all majors. C: Mixture of both, go reserve/ANG and keep pluggin along the civilian path. There is no one solution.

So sonny, please don't blame your parents for not being rich. Note my signature, your welcome, best of luck.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Join the military, work hard. Uncle Sam pays for it all.

then he sends you to Iraq to walk along the road and look for explosive devices.

hows that student loan sound now?

 

[Fred Rogers]

Ah...? Try a state college. Maybe $24,000 for a degree. The airlines don't care about the name of the university or college on the degree so why pay more at ERAU or UND for the same education at a state college?

You can also try one of many community colleges which have aviation programs. I figure that I got through CFI / CFII / MEI for under $20k along with an associates degree. I used all the credits I could (>60) to transfer to a four year state school and get a liberal arts degree which I can fall back on when I get sick of fighting with the aviation industry. ha ha.

Don't think for a second that you need to be an erau / und / purdue type to get an airline job. Just make sure to know your stuff well and it won't matter where you learned it.

Best of luck!!!!!

 

[Metro752]

So sonny, please don't blame your parents for not being rich. Note my signature, your welcome, best of luck.

My dad boned JC Pennys grand daughter

 

[leardawg]

There are many ways to do it if one is determined; flying isn't cheap, but you don't have to be rich to achieve your goals (or there would be very few pilots today). It WILL likely be a long, hard slog for a while. If you're young, plan on biting the bullet and putting off having a family for a while (unless you and Paris Hilton's eyes meet across a crowded room, but then you'd have a whole new set of problems!).

 

[propilot]

Ah...? Try a state college. Maybe $24,000 for a degree. The airlines don't care about the name of the university or college on the degree so why pay more at ERAU or UND for the same education at a state college?

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Just curious if you know what UND stands for??? University of North Dakota...It IS a state school...24K for a 4 year...maybe 8-10 years ago. Current for a ND resident at UND 4 years of room/board/fees/ etc = $42000

For comparison...a 4 year at UNC...$57,000

 

[ePilot22]

B: Pure military, and unlike epilot22 who thinks it is sucking off a teet, 10-20 years later you come out fully qualified and desirable by any and all majors.

Chill out MavErick, it was a joke. And besides I said TIT, not TEET. edit II: I do agree with what scoreboard says...after the teet part! Military is a good option!

Just curious if you know what UND stands for??? University of North Dakota...It IS a state school...

No way, really? A state school you say. Just to make sure...is it a University or College? Cause, ummm, I willing to bet the U stands for, ahhhh, University and ummm, I, ahhh, think that means it's not a, ahhhh, college.

You can also try one of many community colleges which have aviation programs. I figure that I got through CFI / CFII / MEI for under $20k along with an associates degree. I used all the credits I could (>60) to transfer to a four year state school and get a liberal arts degree which I can fall back on when I get sick of fighting with the aviation industry. ha ha.

See here's a feller that understood it.

My dad boned JC Pennys grand daughter

Sooo...do ya get a discount now?



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[mcjohn]

You can not get CFI, CFII, and MEI for under 20k anymore. Ten years ago those places may have existed (hanging on their last thread) but you're not going to find it that cheap anymore. The cheapest I could see it today would be 30g and that's only if you were extremely lucky. Part 61 training environments may have c152's in the $60-$70/hr wet range and $35/hr for instruction but good luck finding them. Part 141 enviroments typically have more over head and expensive rentals and will not save you money.

 

[ePilot22]

The cheapest I could see it today would be 30g and that's only if you were extremely lucky. Part 61 training environments may have c152's in the $60-$70/hr wet range and $35/hr for instruction but good luck finding them. Part 141 enviroments typically have more over head and expensive rentals and will not save you money.

Cessna 152 = $52 a wet hour (141 school)
Cessna 172 = $72 a wet hour (141 school)
Cessna 172RG = $80 a wet hour (141 school)
Piper Seminole = $146 a wet hour (141 school)

Flight Instructor = $35 a block hour (141 school)

I suggest to my students that can, do the private and first stage of the instrument in the 152 - it saves them $20 an hour. That's around a $1,200 savings.

Also with the RG only being $8 an hour more than a straight leg 172, it's worth it to get a check out and do the XCs in the RG.

I know it differs between areas, but in the Denver area these are typical rates. Some more, some less.




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[mcjohn]

Thats got to be rare considering the cost of fuel. Could you tell me the name of that place? Do they have a website?

 

[ePilot22]

Yeah, here ya go...

Air West at Jeffco. www.airwestflyingclub.com

and you can check out two others at Jeffco Airport (KBJC).

www.westernairflightacademy.com and www.journeysaviation.com

The last flight school at Jeffco is a Cessna Pilot Training place. They have nothing older than a 2004, but their rates reflect that. If you want here's the link, but the prices aren't there...

www.mcairaviation.com



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