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Gorilla said:
Join the military, work hard. Uncle Sam pays for it all.


then he sends you to Iraq to walk along the road and look for explosive devices.

hows that student loan sound now?
 
ePilot22 said:
Ah...? Try a state college. Maybe $24,000 for a degree. The airlines don't care about the name of the university or college on the degree so why pay more at ERAU or UND for the same education at a state college?

You can also try one of many community colleges which have aviation programs. I figure that I got through CFI / CFII / MEI for under $20k along with an associates degree. I used all the credits I could (>60) to transfer to a four year state school and get a liberal arts degree which I can fall back on when I get sick of fighting with the aviation industry. ha ha.

Don't think for a second that you need to be an erau / und / purdue type to get an airline job. Just make sure to know your stuff well and it won't matter where you learned it.

Best of luck!!!!!
 
There are many ways to do it if one is determined; flying isn't cheap, but you don't have to be rich to achieve your goals (or there would be very few pilots today). It WILL likely be a long, hard slog for a while. If you're young, plan on biting the bullet and putting off having a family for a while (unless you and Paris Hilton's eyes meet across a crowded room, but then you'd have a whole new set of problems!).
 
ePilot22 said:
Ah...? Try a state college. Maybe $24,000 for a degree. The airlines don't care about the name of the university or college on the degree so why pay more at ERAU or UND for the same education at a state college?

eP.


Just curious if you know what UND stands for??? University of North Dakota...It IS a state school...24K for a 4 year...maybe 8-10 years ago. Current for a ND resident at UND 4 years of room/board/fees/ etc = $42000

For comparison...a 4 year at UNC...$57,000
 
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scoreboard said:
B: Pure military, and unlike epilot22 who thinks it is sucking off a teet, 10-20 years later you come out fully qualified and desirable by any and all majors.

Chill out MavErick, it was a joke. And besides I said TIT, not TEET. edit II: I do agree with what scoreboard says...after the teet part! Military is a good option!

propilot said:
Just curious if you know what UND stands for??? University of North Dakota...It IS a state school...

No way, really? A state school you say. Just to make sure...is it a University or College? Cause, ummm, I willing to bet the U stands for, ahhhh, University and ummm, I, ahhh, think that means it's not a, ahhhh, college.

Fred Rogers said:
You can also try one of many community colleges which have aviation programs. I figure that I got through CFI / CFII / MEI for under $20k along with an associates degree. I used all the credits I could (>60) to transfer to a four year state school and get a liberal arts degree which I can fall back on when I get sick of fighting with the aviation industry. ha ha.

See here's a feller that understood it.

Metro752 said:
My dad boned JC Pennys grand daughter

Sooo...do ya get a discount now?



eP.
 
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You can not get CFI, CFII, and MEI for under 20k anymore. Ten years ago those places may have existed (hanging on their last thread) but you're not going to find it that cheap anymore. The cheapest I could see it today would be 30g and that's only if you were extremely lucky. Part 61 training environments may have c152's in the $60-$70/hr wet range and $35/hr for instruction but good luck finding them. Part 141 enviroments typically have more over head and expensive rentals and will not save you money.
 
mcjohn said:
The cheapest I could see it today would be 30g and that's only if you were extremely lucky. Part 61 training environments may have c152's in the $60-$70/hr wet range and $35/hr for instruction but good luck finding them. Part 141 enviroments typically have more over head and expensive rentals and will not save you money.

Cessna 152 = $52 a wet hour (141 school)
Cessna 172 = $72 a wet hour (141 school)
Cessna 172RG = $80 a wet hour (141 school)
Piper Seminole = $146 a wet hour (141 school)

Flight Instructor = $35 a block hour (141 school)

I suggest to my students that can, do the private and first stage of the instrument in the 152 - it saves them $20 an hour. That's around a $1,200 savings.

Also with the RG only being $8 an hour more than a straight leg 172, it's worth it to get a check out and do the XCs in the RG.

I know it differs between areas, but in the Denver area these are typical rates. Some more, some less.




eP.
 
Metro752 said:
My dad boned JC Pennys grand daughter

so your saying hard work payed off? Good for him.
 
ePilot22 said:
Chill out Mavrick, it was a joke. And besides I said TIT, not TEET.

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No offense taken, my bad, should be tit.

Oh, and before my Navy buds jump on ya, its Maverick, not Mavrick:)

So what pic is your avatar from? The guy looks like the treehugger who got himself and his girl eaten by bears.
 
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scoreboard said:
So what pic is your avatar from? The guy looks like the treehugger who got himself and his girl eaten by bears.

LMAO! :laugh:

No, it's Hunter S. Thompson. I'm not sure about the girl and the bears, but I wouldn't doubt it. I believe the aircraft is a DC-3.

TIT, TEET - from what I hear anything with a nipple can be milked! :D .

scoreboard said:
Oh, and before my Navy buds jump on ya, its Maverick, not Mavrick:)

Thanks! Spelling is definitely not my forte. (I had to use a dictionary just to write that sentence!)




eP.
 
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ePilot22 said:
LMAO! :laugh:

No, it's Hunter S. Thompson. I'm not sure about the girl and the bears, but I wouldn't doubt it. I believe the aircraft is a DC-3.

TIT, TEET - from what I hear anything with a nipple can be milked! :D .



Thanks! Spelling is definitely not my forte. (I had to use a dictionary just to write that sentence!)




eP.

Yep sounds like we went to the same skool. Oh, and stick to tit, teets ain't good for ya.
 
RideTheWind said:
This is not that hard, some states are proud of their military vets and will provide full 100% tuition for a 4 year degree, including aviation flight degrees, Illinois is the only state that does this that I know of, search the Illinois Veterans Grant.

How hard is 4 years in the Coast Guard, get out and move back to Illinois within 6 months and start your BS in Aeronautical Science at the Univ. of Illinois, all you'll have to pay for is books and you'll come out with a CFII if 4 years.

If you don't live in Illinois than get your ass over there and go to work at Mcdonalds for 6 months to establish residence and than go to boot camp, but you may want to stay at Mcdonalds, the job security and pay will be more than you'll make as a pilot.

actually the Illinois veteran's grant, while it is a great thing, does not pay for 100% of your flight training. being from illinois, i did a couple years in the army, then got out and went to SIUC for my bachelor's and flight ratings. the grant paid for 100% of my classes, but it only pays for roughly 20% of your flight training. not that i'm complaining! college only cost me about 20 grand total, flight ratings included.

several people on this thread have said the military is the way to go to get college money. i agree, i signed up for 2 yrs. in the army because it was the shortest amount of time i could sign up for and i wanted to get in and out as soon as possible to get the free college dough. but that was in 1995 when nobody was getting sent to iraq and blown up. these days i would say go into the navy or the airforce. those guys aren't walking along the road in iraq looking for landmines. you hardly ever hear of air force or navy guys getting killed over there.

that's my .02
 

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