DC8 Flyer said:(c) Instrument Rating. A flight instructor who provides instrument flight training for the issuance of an instrument rating or a type rating not limited to VFR must hold an instrument rating on his or her flight instructor certificate and pilot certificate that is appropriate to the category and class of aircraft in which instrument training is being provided.
BYUFlyr said:This clears all doubts: All he needs is an instrument rating (CFII) and a pilot certificate (not neceseraly an instructor certificate) that is appropriate to the category and class of aircraft.
Maybe the punctuation is a little ambigious, but there is no doubt that it's how the FAA interprets it.
nosehair said:You must be a news reporter.
nosehair said:FF, I have, for many,many years, thought of the II in twins the same as you.
However, 61.195(b) says:"A flight instructor may not conduct flight training in any aircraft for which the flight instructor does not hold:
(1) A pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate with the applicable category and class ratings."
How do you get around that?
BYUFlyr said:61.195(b) applies to aircraft ratings not instrument ratings.
DC8 Flyer said:BYU I see what your saying and you raise a good point. However I dont think you can only read one part of that reg alone. 61.195(b) tells us what we must have to provide "instruction" ie AMEL Comm and an MEI to teach in multis, where subsection (c) tells us we must have an instrument rating on both commercial and instructor tickets (duh you have to have an instrument rating anyway to be an instructor) to teach instruments. Since the language on the tickets is "instrument airplane" the category and class is moot, unless you have a multi restriction thats is VFR only??
I see your argument but I dont think you can pull subsection (b) away from subsection (c) and voila you can give instrument instruction in a twin without haveing an MEI.