Multi-Engine Training

[JetPilot500]

I am a Corporate Pilot and do a little instructing on the side for a few friends. One of my students (PVT/INST) is interested in getting his Multi-Engine Rating. I currently instruct him in his Cherokee and don't have access to a twin. He is on a very hectic schedule and it is hard for him to focus on his training. He and I discussed this and decided it would be best for him to go to a school for a week and focus completely on getting that multi-engine rating.

So I was wondering if anyone knows of a good school in the midwest that has the ability to do a course like this. Here are the things I would like to see:

1) More than 1 training twin of the same make/model. Something like a Seminole, Duchess, or Seneca.

2) Aircraft/Instructor availablity to handle a student 6-8 hours per day for a week to get this thing done

3) Good examiner availablity in order to get the checkride done at the end of the week

4) Preferrably located somewhere in the Midwest

It can be a big school or a small school, just as long as they can give him the dedication he needs.

Thanks,
JetPilot500

 

[citdrver]

Ever look into ALL ATP's out ARR? They have Seminoles and use Leslie H. for thier examiner at the end of the week, and I believe the cost is fairly reasonable. I just had a former student complete the training and he said it wasnt bad. I do not know of thier aircraft availability or instructors count, but they are local and have a good reputation.

Take Care

 

[bobbysamd]

American Flyers

Maybe there's an American Flyers where he can go.

Is your student willing to travel? He might consider Sheble's in Kingman, Arizona and Las Vegas, www.shebleaviation.com , for a quick multi rating. Or, any of the major flight schools, i.e. FSI, Pan Am, Comair, etc., can certainly work him in and get him done on a Part 61 basis. It might cost him, but it may be worth it in terms of his schedule.

Hope that helps a little.

 

[banned username 2]

Re: American Flyers

Maybe there's an American Flyers where he can go.

American Flyers is a huge rip-off, they are WAY over-priced....

 

[pilot773]

I agree with Falcon apt. I did my ppl at AF and paid close to 7 grand for everything. If I had gone elsewhere it would have been much much less. I am looking into getting my IR these days and AF wanted 8 grand for that, while the school just downt he street from me wants about 2900.

 

[Traumahawk]

Go with ATP....might even end up in a new Seminole.....the old ones are just as good....but make sure to tell this person, after he gets the ticket...to go learn how to fly multi

---T-hawk

 

[aero99]

7 grand for ppl.

That's what AF quoted me when I was looking around a t different schools.

Went to an independent FBO school for about 3800.00 total.



I like All ATP's programs for twin training from what I have seen.

 

[Av8trxx]

Yeah, American Liars sucks. If he might be willing to travel, he could get a better deal. In addition to Shebles, Lenair Aviation at SNA has a good program and it's in an Aztec. A much better deal than a Duchess in my humble opinion. Plus their block rates are very competative. They often schedule students to fly for a week or two straight to get their rating.

 

[ILLINI]

American Flyers would be able to fit to his schedule and dedicate as much time as he needed.................. BUT, they are VERY expensive and don't have any twins in the midwest (if any anymore).

I agree with the others that recommended ALL ATPs out of ARR. I've worked with Leslie before. She is a great examiner... very thorough, but very fair. If he does get Leslie as an examiner, she gives seminars at Lewis University that cover exactly what she is looking for on all of her check rides. I'm pretty sure she also has tapes available with the same information.

Best of luck!

 

[Geigo]

Jetpilot500

It's not a week long school, but if your student could do two weekends in a row there is a guy with a very nice PA-30CR that might be a good alternitive. He does training on the weekend and could schedule all day Sat & Sun with the checkride on the second Sun. Last I knew it was $135 dual/wet. If your interested PM me & I'll get you a name & number.

Illini,

Just interviewed with Todd yesterday & hopefully it went well. Thanks for posting your info! I owe you one.

Geigo

 

[COOPERVANE]

ALLATPS is best bet

Go to ATP, you will be happy with the aircraft, the price, and the time table.

 

[GoingHot]

www.allatps.com

If you want a straight-forward, no BS, get it done place, ALL ATP is your best bet. But don't expect any hand-holding. They specialize in military-transition, so those 300 hour CFIs get a lot of 4000 hours military guys.

They send you a "Training Supplement" for the Seminole. You can call and get it before you sign up for the course. The examiner goes word for word by the Supplement for both the oral and practical. There won't be a lot of teaching, just guidance. You practice the maneuvers three days and take the checkride on the fourth. About 7 hours practice and 3 for the checkride.

Be Sharp on instruments, so you don't waste too much of your 10 hours doing approaches. If you get all the VMC stuff down cold, the ride will be very easy.

It's been a few years since I went, but the cost was $1295 at that time and the examiner fee was $250. I think the price is a couple hundred more now.

 

[cryodon]

I got my Multi at EMtoo avaition at Pia.

Jean and Mac will do the training over a weekend and he is a DE.
It was the least expensive and most through place I could find.
$1400 for training and checkride a year a go don't know how much it is now.


Monty

 

[EMcx2]

If he is only interested in getting the rating, I concur with going to All ATP. I've completed training evolutions at quite a few places including Shebles and COMAIR and I found ALL ATP's to be the best. Four days and 1500 dollars and I had a COM AMEL.